Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by ezoe on Saturday November 17, 2018 @03:31PM
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Using Wine on ARM computer to run Windows program, it even requires you to to custom build kernel, compile Windows program to ARM target, all for.. for a Text Editor? Really?
Come to think of it, When I converted myself to Windows user to GNU/Linux user, I studied a lot about Wine. All knowledge was unnecessary for I find GNU/Linux and its ecosystem is much better than Windows.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by detuur on Saturday November 17, 2018 @04:35PM
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Notepad++ here is obviously a substitute for any "normal" Win32 application. If you can run np++, you can run many/most Windows applications, obviously discounting stuff that generally doesn't play well with Wine even on x86.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by aasasd on Saturday November 17, 2018 @09:36PM
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Ironically, programs that one is likely to really miss in Unixes are probably closed-source. (I'm still mourning the absence of Totalcmd and Foobar2000.)
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by Waterfall on Saturday November 17, 2018 @10:03PM
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Try deadbeef, it doesn't make real playlists (once changed they can't revert) but it's a carbon copy from another windows to linux convert. The UI editor is also substantially better. I just made an account to post this comment, so PM me for more details. It's all open source!
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by slacka on Saturday November 17, 2018 @01:56PM
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Other tools are not always an option. For example, I used CrossOver(Wine) to run WinMerge which had a plugin to support our company's workflow. Wine allowed me to stick with Linux without any time wasted.
Over the years, I've tried several native Linux alternatives. All of them would require a huge time investment to replaced the missing features.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mhd on Saturday November 17, 2018 @05:16PM
(#18477651)
Apart from being a decent demonstration, editors are deeply personal. Some carpenters might not have a favorite hammer, but others do…
There's a reason why you find emulations of most editors in history remade for "modern" systems, no matter whether that legacy system is TOPS, VM/CMS, Plan 9 or Windows.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by muthdra on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:20PM
(#18476383)
Wine is at least a valid way to get sweet sweet video games for Linux like KOTOR, Half-Life 2, IL-2 Sturmovik and Call of Duty (examples from my low-end Intel graphics 4000 laptop).
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:23AM
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Imagine being able to play these games on ARM without emulation? This is also one of my goals, but as stated in the article, the effort to port them without source code is substantial.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:32AM
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Quite possible. In the article I mention that a Lithuanian hacker by the name of notaz statically recompiled StarCraft, Diablo 1 & 2. But it's a huge effort, of course. Even better would be to (partially) decompile to, say, C for better performance.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by JoeAltmaier on Sunday November 18, 2018 @09:13AM
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It should be possible to automate translation of the machine code? I've disassembled pure binary with a tool before. How much more work to re-emit ARM? Especially with modern executable formats including debug info, identification of code and data segments etc. which was problematic with pure binary
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @10:02AM
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I'm not an expert on the topic, but the way from a x86/x64 disassembly to an ARM binary is very long. The identification of segments is not 100% accurate, manual corrections will be required, addresses have to updated etc. I'd say fully automatic translation is not really feasible, but I expect to be contradicted :)
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by cwyers on Saturday November 17, 2018 @06:53PM
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I mean, this is "valid" if this is the software the author wants to run, I'm just surprised anyone would go to this kind of trouble to run Notepad++, which is something like my fifth-favorite text editor.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:17AM
(#18480223)
It was very frustrating at times, I cannot lie... It's my favorite editor though, so I just HAD to do it. Now I have to compile all of the plugins I use.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by thuf1r on Saturday November 17, 2018 @02:50PM
(#18477036)
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but just in case, there are dozens of editors that are way better than notepad++. Feature rich ones like Sublime Text, or VS Code, or simple ones like xed / gedit.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by gambiting on Saturday November 17, 2018 @03:47PM
(#18477322)
Sublime and VS Code are both huge in size and work rather slowly on older machines, despite being nothing else but text editors. I do support OP's statement - Notepad++ is the best text editor available(on windows).
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:36AM
(#18480299)
Yep, I'm surprised how quickly we phase out perfectly healthy machines, just because the software quality keeps getting lower and lower. It's not good for the climate, among other things. I appreciate how zealous the Notepad++ developers are about performance and efficiency.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by batrat on Saturday November 17, 2018 @05:27PM
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lol?(Windows user perspective) Unless you run it on 10 year old hardware yes, terrible performance. Notepad is better. But if you have at least an ssd and 4gb of ram, I don't see any issues.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:19AM
(#18480230)
This is exactly why I prefer Notepad++, it's resource efficient, it doesn't matter where you run it on. Even on the Raspberry Pi the performance is quite decent.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:22PM
(#18476391)
I'm a big fan of Notepad++. I wish the UDL interface was a little more flexible, but at least I don't have to learn a new language to create one like I would with the otherwise similar Notepadqq.
Come to think of it, When I converted myself to Windows user to GNU/Linux user, I studied a lot about Wine. All knowledge was unnecessary for I find GNU/Linux and its ecosystem is much better than Windows.
Over the years, I've tried several native Linux alternatives. All of them would require a huge time investment to replaced the missing features.
There's a reason why you find emulations of most editors in history remade for "modern" systems, no matter whether that legacy system is TOPS, VM/CMS, Plan 9 or Windows.
I love it.