Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by cwyers on Saturday November 17, 2018 @11:40AM
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That seems like an awfully convoluted way to get a text editor for Linux.
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Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mhd on Saturday November 17, 2018 @05:16PM
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Apart from being a decent demonstration, editors are deeply personal. Some carpenters might not have a favorite hammer, but others do…
There's a reason why you find emulations of most editors in history remade for "modern" systems, no matter whether that legacy system is TOPS, VM/CMS, Plan 9 or Windows.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:15AM
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Yes, this is the truth, thank you for saying it! I do feel phyiscal pain when having to edit something without my favorite editor =)
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by muthdra on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:20PM
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Wine is at least a valid way to get sweet sweet video games for Linux like KOTOR, Half-Life 2, IL-2 Sturmovik and Call of Duty (examples from my low-end Intel graphics 4000 laptop).
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by thuf1r on Saturday November 17, 2018 @02:51PM
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(HL2 has run natively on Linux for many years just FYI.)
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:23AM
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Imagine being able to play these games on ARM without emulation? This is also one of my goals, but as stated in the article, the effort to port them without source code is substantial.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by JoeAltmaier on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:24AM
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Isn't it possible to do a static translation of the machine code to ARM, and run native?
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:32AM
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Quite possible. In the article I mention that a Lithuanian hacker by the name of notaz statically recompiled StarCraft, Diablo 1 & 2. But it's a huge effort, of course. Even better would be to (partially) decompile to, say, C for better performance.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by JoeAltmaier on Sunday November 18, 2018 @09:13AM
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It should be possible to automate translation of the machine code? I've disassembled pure binary with a tool before. How much more work to re-emit ARM? Especially with modern executable formats including debug info, identification of code and data segments etc. which was problematic with pure binary
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @10:02AM
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I'm not an expert on the topic, but the way from a x86/x64 disassembly to an ARM binary is very long. The identification of segments is not 100% accurate, manual corrections will be required, addresses have to updated etc. I'd say fully automatic translation is not really feasible, but I expect to be contradicted :)
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by cwyers on Saturday November 17, 2018 @06:53PM
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I mean, this is "valid" if this is the software the author wants to run, I'm just surprised anyone would go to this kind of trouble to run Notepad++, which is something like my fifth-favorite text editor.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:17AM
(#18480223)
It was very frustrating at times, I cannot lie... It's my favorite editor though, so I just HAD to do it. Now I have to compile all of the plugins I use.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by cpach on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:12PM
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Sure. I’m still amazed by the effort they put down.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:15AM
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Thank you very much!
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by azahk on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:18PM
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Don't think there's anything in the world that compares to Notepad++.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by thuf1r on Saturday November 17, 2018 @02:50PM
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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but just in case, there are dozens of editors that are way better than notepad++. Feature rich ones like Sublime Text, or VS Code, or simple ones like xed / gedit.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by gambiting on Saturday November 17, 2018 @03:47PM
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Sublime and VS Code are both huge in size and work rather slowly on older machines, despite being nothing else but text editors. I do support OP's statement - Notepad++ is the best text editor available(on windows).
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:36AM
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Yep, I'm surprised how quickly we phase out perfectly healthy machines, just because the software quality keeps getting lower and lower. It's not good for the climate, among other things. I appreciate how zealous the Notepad++ developers are about performance and efficiency.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by azahk on Saturday November 17, 2018 @03:59PM
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VS Code has terrible performance. Are you the one who's being sarcastic?
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by batrat on Saturday November 17, 2018 @05:27PM
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lol?(Windows user perspective) Unless you run it on 10 year old hardware yes, terrible performance. Notepad is better. But if you have at least an ssd and 4gb of ram, I don't see any issues.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by mivanchev on Sunday November 18, 2018 @08:19AM
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This is exactly why I prefer Notepad++, it's resource efficient, it doesn't matter where you run it on. Even on the Raspberry Pi the performance is quite decent.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by chewyland on Sunday November 18, 2018 @07:40AM
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4 year old MacBook running Windows 10. VS Code opens in a second and is smooth as silk.
I love it.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by laumars on Saturday November 17, 2018 @01:42PM
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I do genuinely like Notepad++ but it’s hardly unique. If anything, I’d argue that it exists in a heavily saturated market.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by EamonnMR on Saturday November 17, 2018 @01:47PM
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I used it for a long time but eventually I realized that it's only killer feature was the file tree on the left which most editors have anyway.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by pcunite on Saturday November 17, 2018 @02:17PM
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The search across all open documents is very good.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:22PM
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I'm a big fan of Notepad++. I wish the UDL interface was a little more flexible, but at least I don't have to learn a new language to create one like I would with the otherwise similar Notepadqq.
Re:Running Windows Software on ARM Devices with Wine
by graycrow on Saturday November 17, 2018 @12:49PM
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There is. Far Manager :)