Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent than Stuxnet

Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by Ajedi32 on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @11:29PM (#18351257)

> Details about the supposed new attack are superficial at the moment, as there are no details about the supposed attack, the damage it caused or its targets.

So... not much of a story at the moment. Iran claimed its under attack by a "Stuxnet-like" virus.

Doesn't seem like there are any other significant details beyond that. It's not even clear that the target was nuclear centrifuges this time.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by draz on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @11:26PM (#18351242)

“Some guy” is probably an employee of the facility who knew perfectly well the USB key that he was probably given, not at random, is not innocuous.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by jameskilton on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:53AM (#18353391)

I highly recommend reading the book "Countdown to Zero Day". Stuxnet was incredibly sophisticated and explicitly targeted at Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities.

https://www.amazon.com/Countdown-Zero-Day-Stuxnet-Digital/dp...

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by paulie_a on Thursday November 01, 2018 @01:05PM (#18356096)

The documentary on it is also excellent.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by onetimemanytime on Thursday November 01, 2018 @12:09AM (#18351392)

FU money and exfiltration to USA. Kids go to US colleges and live happily, ever after. Just so he doesn't insulted :) mention that Iran could be better without the mullahs.

No doubt, USA already has the list of employees and knows their weak points.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by losteric on Thursday November 01, 2018 @01:11AM (#18351601)

Or maybe a supply chain man-in-the-middle attack.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by paulcole on Thursday November 01, 2018 @01:19AM (#18351632)

Be careful or you’ll end up as Bloomberg’s next source!

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by shard972 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @01:28AM (#18351656)

To say stuxnet was akin to someone plugging a USB drive in really downplays how serious the operation surrounding stuxnet was.

Iran was having their nuclear scientists assassinated in the streets at the time stuxnet was being infiltrated into the nuclear facilities.

I have a feeling that when you have that level of resources being dedicated to a mission, your not hinging your whole plan on someone picking up a random usb and plugging it in.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by 2RTZZSro on Thursday November 01, 2018 @01:35AM (#18351678)

Israel Mossad used remotely detonated magnetically attached bombs attached to the victim's car door while they were stuck in traffic using a motorcycle drive-by attack. That's unusual outside of the Middle East. In most other countries they trigger remote exploits (electronic and physical) in target vehicles which lead to terrible crashes.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by onetimemanytime on Thursday November 01, 2018 @02:08AM (#18351743)

Soon they'll just have to hack your Tesla or autonomous car. Hello tree!

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by btown on Thursday November 01, 2018 @02:21AM (#18351771)

If any of this thread is remotely true, hacking a Tesla would be child’s play for a state level actor. https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1032939617404645376?...

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by StudentStuff on Thursday November 01, 2018 @07:49AM (#18353032)

Networked cars are a terrible thing to have driving about, they're just so apt to join the internet of vulnerable things.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by fhood on Thursday November 01, 2018 @10:46AM (#18354350)

Not after I have a Faraday cage painted onto mine. Inconvenient? Sure, but totally worth.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by illumin8 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @11:15AM (#18354695)

How is your autonomous car going to navigate without GPS signals?

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by fhood on Thursday November 01, 2018 @01:55PM (#18356601)

random walk

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by djrogers on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:55AM (#18353867)

> In most other countries they trigger remote exploits (electronic and physical) in target vehicles which lead to terrible crashes.

Citation please! I’ve never heard of this actually being done IRL - only on CSI type shows. Where/when/who has actually used this technique in a killing? It seems overly complex and prone to suboptimal outcomes (the vast majority of car crashes only result in minor injuries).

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by SEJeff on Thursday November 01, 2018 @11:02AM (#18354526)

Here are a few interesting ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Iranian_nucle...

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by josefresco on Thursday November 01, 2018 @10:10AM (#18354003)

This isn't a citation, but if you're interested in the topic and learning more about to what length Israel will go to assassinate perceived enemies, I recommend "Rise and Kill First" by Ronen Bergman

https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Kill-First-Targeted-Assassinatio...

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by barnesto on Thursday November 01, 2018 @10:39AM (#18354265)

Perceived

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by josefresco on Thursday November 01, 2018 @11:22AM (#18354775)

I actually regret using that word - I'll leave it so your reply has context. Perception is always a factor in determining one's enemies or allies - Israel is no exception.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by devoply on Thursday November 01, 2018 @01:44AM (#18351695)

That's how they got Diana. </tinfoil>

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by techntoke on Thursday November 01, 2018 @02:23AM (#18351778)

Fayed was born in Alexandria, Egypt and was the eldest son of the Egyptian billionaire Mohamed Al-Fayed, former owner of Harrods department store. His father was also the former owner of Fulham Football Club and the Hôtel Ritz Paris. Fayed's mother was the Saudi Arabian author Samira Khashoggi; her father was Dr Muhammad Khashoggi, who was of Turkish descent, and brother to the billionaire arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi.

Not really a conspiracy:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1033626/jamal-khashoggi...

Trump is involved with these people as well:

http://anewdomain.net/jamal-khashoggi-adman-khashoggi-trump-...

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by prolikewh0a on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:08AM (#18353151)

Stuxnet was extremely complicated!

More info: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-most-sophisticated-piece-o...

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by justaguyhere on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:26AM (#18353256)

This driver was digitally signed by Realtek, which means that the authors of the worm were somehow able to break into the most secure location in a huge Taiwanese company, and steal the most secret key that this company owns, without Realtek finding out about it.

In addition to everything else it’s doing, the worm is now playing us back a 21-second data recording on our computer screens that it captured when the centrifuges were working normally.

Wow, that was a fascinating read. The amount of resources and the level of sophistication is mind boggling. Somehow it feels like the finest brains alive are either working on making more deadlier weapons or on thwarting other people's efforts in making them.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by howard941 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @10:08AM (#18353974)

The Realtek credentials were stolen long ago+. It's puzzling why they're still being honored.

+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet#Windows_infection

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by onetimemanytime on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:21AM (#18353603)

It is but Stuxnet is in the wrong Quora "What is the most sophisticated piece of software/code ever written?" Stuxnet is superb and complicated BUT only because it had several nation states behind it and that data was used by its creators. Nation states have essentially unlimited money and other ways that no one can match (sharing of info, freeing of spies, letting you get away with murder, $100m in a bank account, new identity etc etc.)

I am not convinced that Stuxnet is more complicated than, say Excel, Windows, Android or a hedge fund's trading platform.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by hguant on Thursday November 01, 2018 @11:21AM (#18354768)

Complicated and sophisticated are not synonyms.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by thx4allthestuff on Thursday November 01, 2018 @02:04AM (#18351734)

For those who haven't watch 'Star Trek Into Darkness' in awhile, go watch it again and note how the guy walks into the ultra secure facility and plugs in Khan's thumb-drive. That's how it goes down when shit gets real.

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Re:Israel silent as Iran hit by computer virus more violent ... by thx4allthestuff on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:55PM (#18360110)

Thank you. Down voters just did me a huge favor. I'm done contributing here.

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