Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by tomrod on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:06AM
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Cool to hear about a revamp. It confuses me why some projects use a well-known open source name. In Linux, it's primary desktop environment (Gnome) uses Nautilus as a file manager. Dropbox even has a package for Dropbox/Nautilus integration.
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Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by Insanity on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:25AM
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Yeah whenever I hear Nautilus, the first thing that comes to mind is the file manager.
But I suppose most dropbox users are on mac/windows.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by hackandtrip on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:31AM
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What alternative have Linux users to Dropbox, to using their own server? (That is, for a number of reasons for most people, suboptimal)?
You cant really use OneDrive365, and Dropbox offers vast support to Linux, is easy to set and can be used for free too.
Is there a reason why Linux users wouldn't use it? Asking for curiosity.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by groovybits on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:37AM
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> Dropbox offers vast support to Linux
Dropbox only supports unencrypted ext4 filesystems on Linux, so I would not use the phrase 'vast support'.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by coldtea on Friday September 28, 2018 @09:36AM
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Because there are many popular desktop options for Linux that don't use ext4 and non-encrypted as their default?
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday September 28, 2018 @09:52AM
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RHEL family is XFS-centric, and quite a few distros (including Ubuntu) offer encryption in the default installer.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by danieldk on Friday September 28, 2018 @10:26AM
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ext4 on encrypted devices, such as dm-crypt/LUKS, is supported. What is not supported are encryption filesystems that are 'filesystem overlays', such as ecryptfs.
(Since I was using ZFS, I am still debating whether to stay with Dropbox after November's filesystem apocalypse.)
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by module0000 on Friday September 28, 2018 @12:13PM
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FYI, you can still use ecrypt fs with dropbox. Put the encrypted store within your dropbox, and mount it outside your dropbox. From the dropbox point of view, you have thousands of files with gibberish as names.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by barrkel on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:35AM
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Every desktop Linux user could use Dropbox and still most users of Dropbox would probably be Windows and Mac.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by dordoka on Friday September 28, 2018 @09:03AM
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OwnCloud supports Linux [1]. If you want a SaaS version, they have several hosting partners [2].
[1] https://owncloud.com/client/ [2] https://owncloud.org/hosting-partners/
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by pritambaral on Friday September 28, 2018 @09:52AM
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Better go with Nextcloud than ownCloud. Nextcloud is the fork by the original developer team, and has quite a few nice improvements compared to ownCloud (e.g.: video and text chat, e2e encryption)
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by dordoka on Friday September 28, 2018 @09:57AM
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Didn't know about the fork. Thanks for the suggestion, will check it out.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by tombowditch on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:36AM
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> Is there a reason why Linux users wouldn't use it
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/14/dropbox_encrypted_l... ?
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by Ylodi on Friday September 28, 2018 @10:44AM
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Seafile (https://www.seafile.com/en/home/).
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by reacharavindh on Friday September 28, 2018 @12:18PM
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There is Syncthing which looks good on paper, but it lacks an iOS client. I'd love it if someone developed even a read-only iOS app for it.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by cpburns2009 on Friday September 28, 2018 @10:48AM
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I use SpiderOak One [1] which is a privacy focused alternative to Dropbox. I run it on Ubuntu (and previously on Debian and Arch Linux). There's no free tier like there is with Dropbox though.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by minikomi on Saturday September 29, 2018 @01:19AM
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For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by Insanity on Friday September 28, 2018 @09:47AM
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Yeah but that is a different group.
"A large percentage of linux users, use dropbox" does not equal "A large percentage of dropbox users, use linux".
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by lyk on Friday September 28, 2018 @09:11AM
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keybase's kbfs is my dropbox-style replacement. It works really well in my experience
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by danieldk on Friday September 28, 2018 @10:28AM
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kbfs is a network filesystem, whereas Dropbox provides file synchronization. kbfs does not work when you are offline, whereas with Dropbox the files are always available locally on your machine.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by mynewtb on Friday September 28, 2018 @09:24AM
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Seafile is great
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by mywacaday on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:59AM
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I'm mostly a windows user but have some exposure to Ubuntu and had never heard of Nautilus
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by phalangion on Friday September 28, 2018 @12:46PM
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It's funny because the only reason I know of Nautilus on Ubuntu is from installing Dropbox. To use the Dropbox daemon on Ubuntu you have to install it and then restart Nautilus.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by Ylodi on Friday September 28, 2018 @10:42AM
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You never used a file manager? That was a tiny, little exposure. :-)
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by cpburns2009 on Friday September 28, 2018 @10:45AM
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I think Ubuntu renames Nautilus to "Files".
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by feborges on Saturday September 29, 2018 @09:44AM
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GNOME does.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by M_Bakhtiari on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:34AM
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That's why open source projects need to register their trademarks. That's how Gnome managed to stop Groupon from ripping off the name for their own project.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by acct1771 on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:54AM
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Clear disconnect from the open source community, which isn't a negative signal, but also is not a positive one.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by justtopost on Friday September 28, 2018 @10:43AM
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Yeah, its enough that I am actively disinterested. Seemz like the opposite of goodwill.
Re:Architecture of Nautilus, the new Dropbox search engine
by danShumway on Friday September 28, 2018 @02:57PM
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Yeah, this seems unnecessarily confusing to me. It's an internal project, so it's not like the name matters for advertising or anything.
Surely it's just common courtesy to not step on top of an actively developed, very popular project that is directly related to file management.