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Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by Sir_Cmpwn on Monday August 06, 2018 @12:53PM (#17699350)
Or you could rip all of this BS out and just integrate with existing, non-decentralized payment processors, and avoid alienating all non-technical users in the process.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by hardwaresofton on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @12:01AM (#17703779)
So the thing is Bitcoin isn't bullshit. The technology and the papers are solid -- it's the application and the resulting hypetrain and what it spawned that you're railing against (from what I can tell, please let me know if I'm wrong).

Bitcoin does not have 0 use cases, it has ~1 that's extremely rare in practice, so much so that it's usually not worth using bitcoin. But it does have a usecase. Something something spherical cows.

Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by 127 on Monday August 06, 2018 @06:37PM (#17702386)
Most payment processors are highly mutable by US politics.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by paulddraper on Monday August 06, 2018 @08:14PM (#17702890)
In what way?
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by 127 on Monday August 06, 2018 @10:56PM (#17703580)
Julian Assange is one good example. The recent Iranian attempt to withdraw 350 million from a German bank is another.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by bufferoverflow on Monday August 06, 2018 @01:12PM (#17699542)
Most cryptocurrency is easier to use than a credit card. You scan a QR code and click "confirm" to pay. So that "non-technical" criticism is a red herring.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by koube on Monday August 06, 2018 @01:37PM (#17699786)
I disagree with this. The process for 99% of people to use a credit card is "reach in your wallet, hand a card over or type in the number". The process for 99% of people to use crypto is "read on wikipedia on what cryptocurrency is, ask someone how to use it, get a lengthy lecture about how distributed currency is the future", and then they're still not anywhere close to using crypto.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by mkirklions on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:15PM (#17700078)
I find crypto currency identical in difficulty as using foreign currency.

Once you convert Fiat to crypto, its easier to spend than using a debit/credit card.

Getting it from Fiat to crypto is the hard part. After that you literally scan a QR code or type in an email.

Its my preferred way of paying because I always have my phone but I dont always keep my wallet in my pocket. I dont need to add my address and birth date. I just send money.

Also, to clarify, I'm not a fan of alt coins(at the moment) only Bitcoin I believe is useful. Between coinbase Email, Shift card, and the usual on-chain txns, Ive basically made the change to Bitcoin lifestyle.

Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by koube on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:52PM (#17701135)
I find it more difficult to use Canadian dollars than US dollars in the United states, to the point that I have never used Canadian dollars in my daily life, and I would speculate that 99% of people would have the same experience.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by bobthepanda on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:46PM (#17700371)
> I find crypto currency identical in difficulty as using foreign currency.

The vast majority of people would find it burdensome to convert their money to another currency, and then use that on a normal basis. Of course if you ignore the hardest part, it's "easy".

Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by dolessdrugs on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @12:24PM (#17708016)
He never said easy, he said as hard, which is true.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by y4mi on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:42PM (#17701019)
The problem is always wherever the other party supports your payment methods. You can literally pay by holding a smart watch over a supporting terminal. the same with online shops and Google wallet, Amazon pay or whatever

There are so many options at this point that I never get why anyone makes this about crypto currency. Most of these options are older and more widespread than Bitcoin as well.

Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by spookthesunset on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:20PM (#17700801)
> Most cryptocurrency is easier to use than a credit card.

It is until it isn't.

- Got screwed by a vendor and want to issue a chargeback? Nope. Can't do it.

- Sent to the wrong address because of a typo? Sorry for your loss!

- Got your wallet emptied by a malicious program running on your computer? Sorry for your loss.

- Too many people using the crypto, resulting in confirmations taking forever and/or costing a ton? Too bad, so sad!

- Fiat price of crypto swung widly before / after transaction resulting in your purchase costing far more / less than expected? Should have hodl'd buster!

- Want to convert all that BTC into fifthly dirty fiat? Better find an exchange that actually pays out in USD and not tether. Also better hope that said exchange actually has the money and isn't insolvent.

etc...

Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by TylerE on Monday August 06, 2018 @01:33PM (#17699740)
That's like saying driving a car is simpler than walking because you don't have to put on shoes.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by mmanfrin on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:51PM (#17700432)
You've either missed the obvious or willfully ignored the fact that to use crytpo, you must first have it. This is what makes it untenable for the majority of people.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by antidesitter on Monday August 06, 2018 @12:59PM (#17699400)
Do you know why OpenBazaar chose to support cryptocurrency?
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by QML on Monday August 06, 2018 @01:33PM (#17699742)
There's a lot of information already here [1], but I might add it'd be easier to create a Bitcoin wallet for each user than to open a PayPal or Stripe account for each.

[1] https://openbazaar.org/features/

Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by mkirklions on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:16PM (#17700091)
Im pretty sick of websites asking for my home address, phone number, and (most importantly) my email address.

This is easily one of my favorite parts about Bitcoin. Scan the address and you are done.

Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by WorldMaker on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:51PM (#17700431)
This is an orthogonal concern. The only one of those necessary for US CC processing is Zip code, and only some of the time, which the CC processor will tell you when and you could handle as call-and-response. The other stuff can also be dropped from most CC-processing stores, they just don't want to because they like having that information just incase they need to ship something, or definitely in case they get marketing ideas to send you.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by cjhanks on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:00PM (#17700558)
Or, build in integrated `crypto <--> $$` exchange.
Re:Nile: decentralized, commission-free, local-economy focus... by cryptobeanbaby on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:48PM (#17701088)
There's no point in doing that, because if you can do that you can do $$ <--> $$