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Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by AdmiralAsshat on Monday July 16, 2018 @12:34PM (#17542608)
I recommend consulting CamelCamelCamel before making any purchases on Amazon today to verify that there wasn't a price hike before the drop. CCC lets you see the pricing history on any of the items on Amazon.

It even has a Chrome extension.[1]

[0]https://camelcamelcamel.com/

[1]https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-camelizer/ghno...

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by Fnoord on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:04PM (#17542889)
Keepa [1] shows a graph at every item. It works great on Chrome and Firefox.

[1] https://keepa.com

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by crazcarl on Monday July 16, 2018 @04:53PM (#17545005)
Will this (or is there any extension) make items with multiple choices easier to browse? For example if I want to go look at a pair of shorts, the item page might offer them in 15 different colors, and they are all different prices (and even different prices by size). I'd like an extension that makes it easier to view the prices and ideally sort by cheapest first.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by Fnoord on Monday July 16, 2018 @05:11PM (#17545167)
Good question.

I just tested that with Keepa on this phone [1] [2] [3] [4]. The charts are different for all 4 colours but personally I like it that way. Usually I have a preference for colours. However, sometimes I don't, and if I'd buy for someone else who knows? Its gonna depend. I checked the settings and was able to compare different Amazon versions (per country) but not merge colours of the same item.

With The Camelizer it shows the wrong price (I take it it grabs Amazon US price but I'm not sure).

I don't have an account on Keepa or CamelCamelCamel. Perhaps having an account gives further benefits.

[1] https://www.amazon.de/Nokia-3310-Single-Sim-Mobiltelefon-Gra...

[2] https://www.amazon.de/Nokia-3310-Single-Sim-Mobiltelefon-Gra...

[3] https://www.amazon.de/Nokia-3310-Single-Sim-Mobiltelefon-Gra...

[4] https://www.amazon.de/Nokia-3310-Single-Sim-Mobiltelefon-Gra...

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by cowkingdeluxe on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:02PM (#17542868)
I also recommend this tool for anyone looking to buy expensive items. I saved ~$900 on an OLED TV from a very brief price drop in late May due to camel. It had been on my list for months however.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by agumonkey on Monday July 16, 2018 @12:51PM (#17542757)
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by augbog on Monday July 16, 2018 @12:54PM (#17542784)
Is this better than honey Chrome extension?
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by agumonkey on Monday July 16, 2018 @12:59PM (#17542837)
just tried it, honey is about coupon/deals while camel is about price charts (my 1min summary)
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by augbog on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:06PM (#17542900)
thanks! will give it a try! honey also has a price chart thing (only shows when you go to an Amazon item specifically and then the Chrome extension injects it in) but I've found it only shows it when there have been recent deals so it's not always useful
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by agumonkey on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:10PM (#17542932)
I see, my minute sample wasn't enough to see that
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by Larrikin on Monday July 16, 2018 @06:30PM (#17545729)
Honey has the same basic features of camelcamelcamel, but they present it more as a warning of recent price changes than the drill down chart of ccc. I use both
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by AdmiralAsshat on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:08PM (#17542916)
Thanks, I added it to my original post.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by ben509 on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:21PM (#17543017)
> to verify that there wasn't a price hike before the drop.

I think it would be more useful to have an extension that just hid all the bogus discount claims.

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by solarkraft on Monday July 16, 2018 @04:10PM (#17544660)
I would like an extension to hide this and all other click bait.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by elorant on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:10PM (#17542928)
Wonder how that service works. Amazon explicitly forbids keeping track of their pricing history. I knew a few guys who tried it and got a C&D warning at some time. Does ccc have a special agreement or something equivalent? Beats me.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by maxyme on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:24PM (#17543042)
The creator did an AMA on Reddit last year. Basically the site originally showed price history of other sites like Newegg but Amazon told the author they'd let him continue to get pricing info only if he removed the other sites and made it exclusively for Amazon, and he did.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5xuniu/im_the_founder...

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by tolth on Monday July 16, 2018 @02:03PM (#17543467)
Also, Amazon's retail teams rely on CCC because it's more accurate than their own tools.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by antsar on Monday July 16, 2018 @02:33PM (#17543734)
Can anyone elaborate on this? I assume Amazon could trivially build an internal CCC, and I'm at a loss how their internal tools would be less accurate than a 3rd-party scraper...
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by tolth on Monday July 16, 2018 @03:26PM (#17544229)
Anyone who could elaborate is NDA'd.

In general, though, Amazon is always kind of starved for engineering resources. It sucks so much to work at in so many of its teams that it has a colossal retention problem and, one would expect, the corresponding level of technical debt.

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by woolvalley on Monday July 16, 2018 @04:57PM (#17545039)
Maybe if they made being an engineer there a winning proposition...

They could start with the vesting schedule for one.

Maybe have competitive salaries with FB & Google?

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by tolth on Tuesday July 17, 2018 @02:31AM (#17547748)
I genuinely do not understand why they don't do this. Bezos either has some sort of master plan relating to a high-turnover staff model or is delusional about the true culture underneath him. I don't know which.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by felix_nagaand on Tuesday July 17, 2018 @06:45AM (#17548677)
Trump's using the same model fwiw.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by lgregg on Monday July 16, 2018 @02:32PM (#17543731)
You would think with internal data that internal tools would be better, but time and time again they're not.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by CobrastanJorji on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:45PM (#17543271)
I can't tell, but I think that's actually shittier than just trying to shut down his extension.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by LeifCarrotson on Monday July 16, 2018 @03:50PM (#17544480)
So that's why I can no longer use Camelegg.

I understand why the author would cave to Amazon, but not why that would fail to cause competitor dedicated only to Newegg to pop up.

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by gonesilent on Monday July 16, 2018 @09:10PM (#17546537)
camelegg was shut down by newegg, not by amazon.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by thinkmassive on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:13PM (#17542958)
Anyone can send a cease and desist. How would that be enforceable though? The information is available publicly to anonymous browsers.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by LeifCarrotson on Monday July 16, 2018 @03:47PM (#17544443)
The risk is not that the results will be impossible to gather and publish, but that they will be unprofitable.

CamelCamelCamel makes money off users clicking Amazon affiliate URLs to go to Amazon from their site. It's easy for Amazon (or anyone else, really) to determine from these URLs the Amazon account which is tied to these links and 'enforce' the C&D by canceling/refusing to pay that account's affilate link revenue.

Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by eloff on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:54PM (#17543365)
It didn't really matter who's right and who's wrong. If a fortune 500 sues you, you lose even if you win.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by FLUX-YOU on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:52PM (#17543338)
Well-funded Amazon legal dept vs individual = not a fun time, regardless if it's found frivolous or thrown out.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by lostlogin on Monday July 16, 2018 @02:38PM (#17543778)
Wonder how that flies with regulatory authorities? Some places have rules around pricing behaviour and Amazon seems to be sailing close to the wind. http://www.comcom.govt.nz/fair-trading/fair-trading-act-fact...
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by jjoonathan on Monday July 16, 2018 @03:31PM (#17544274)
It flies just fine if they're asleep at the wheel -- which they most definitely are.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by MegaDeKay on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:35PM (#17543135)
If you are in Canada, you can use https://ca.camelcamelcamel.com/
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by foepys on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:59PM (#17543411)
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by IshKebab on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:06PM (#17542905)
There's also keepa.com which has an extension that puts the price history inline in Amazon. Extremely useful.
Re:Amazon Prime Day deals 'not what they seem' by L1quid on Monday July 16, 2018 @01:22PM (#17543027)
Thanks for the recommendation!