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Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by Andrex on Friday June 29, 2018 @06:12PM (#17428238)
Where in the linked article does it say Apple Maps has 75% marketshare?

Assuming that number is accurate, as Apple Maps is preinstalled on iPhones it means 25% of users went out of their way to manually remove it. Mission far from accomplished (and hence Apple's efforts in the OP to rebuild Maps' dataset entirely in-house.)

I'm also curious what the active usage numbers are versus Google Maps on iOS.

Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by cwp on Friday June 29, 2018 @07:11PM (#17428551)
Eighth paragraph. "Apple says its mapping service is now used more than three times as often as its next leading competitor on iPhones and iPads"

Ok, maybe slightly less than 75%, because Waze exists. But again, crushing Google Maps is not the goal. Keeping people on iOS is the goal.

Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by TaylorAlexander on Saturday June 30, 2018 @12:04AM (#17429419)
I also haven’t figured out how to get links I click on in my phone to open in Google Maps, so I accidentally open Apple Maps all the time.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by mimimihaha on Saturday June 30, 2018 @01:37PM (#17431763)
I would uninstall Apple maps entirely from my phone if i could but then there’d be no way to open up dropped pins from my messages. I always feel like the user is grabbed by the balls when it comes to device manufactures trying to force you to give them your data rather than hand it over to someone else, just because they know the user can’t do anything about it really.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by wutbrodo on Sunday July 01, 2018 @04:26AM (#17434675)
> I always feel like the user is grabbed by the balls when it comes to device manufactures trying to force you to give them your data rather than hand it over to someone else, just because they know the user can’t do anything about it really.

This isn't a manufacturer problem, it's an Apple problem. Lack of choice is baked into their design, which is uncontroversial among both proponents and detractors; the former would (reasonably) say that there are tradeoffs that are the other side of the coin to constraining the user so heavily.

Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by tigershark on Saturday June 30, 2018 @02:17AM (#17429726)
Once you could open it in google maps from Apple maps, now they removed this ability. I wish I could use google maps as a default and get rid of that useless Apple maps.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by jehlakj on Saturday June 30, 2018 @12:59PM (#17431572)
And if only gmail would open up safari by default without asking me every single time. And yes, I only use safari on my iPhone because it’s either just safari or safari AND chrome.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by linkregister on Sunday July 01, 2018 @04:47PM (#17437465)
Firefox is reasonably performant on iOS.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by bald on Saturday June 30, 2018 @06:59AM (#17430356)
Wow, isn't that the same kind of behavior/pattern that made MS target of the antitrust charges in the end of the 90s, back then with IE being the default browser?
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by nl on Saturday June 30, 2018 @08:32AM (#17430644)
No, they had trouble because of they way they forced PC manufactures to ship IE instead of Netscape.

Also, they had practical monopoly. Apple doesn't

Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by sincerely on Saturday June 30, 2018 @12:46AM (#17429519)
I don’t think theres a way to set Google maps as the default :(
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by ASalazarMX on Friday June 29, 2018 @07:40PM (#17428691)
That's some Bilbo Baggins phrasing. It's telling if no hard numbers were divulged.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by MikeTheGreat on Saturday June 30, 2018 @12:08AM (#17429423)
Can I ask what you mean by "Bilbo Baggins phrasing"?

I agree with your point, and think I can guess what that phrase means, but I'm not quite remembering why Bilbo Baggins would be associated with being intentionally vague about something :)

Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by belriosity on Saturday June 30, 2018 @12:18AM (#17429454)
The line he uses at his going away party is somewhat related, “I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”

I'm not sure if it's what OP meant though.

Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by mistermann on Saturday June 30, 2018 @12:51PM (#17431530)
I've always assumed that was a veiled insult, but never thought about it long enough to tell.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by jrochkind1 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @05:32PM (#17437737)
I always assumed it was too, but now that I actually try to parse it... I think maybe it's not? But all who heard it probably assumed it was too? I think Bilbo probably meant the to be confused about whether it was or not, with plausible deniability, haha.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by jrochkind1 on Saturday June 30, 2018 @01:09AM (#17429575)
Ha, i'm adding "Bilbo Baggins phrasing" to my repertoire.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by dx034 on Saturday June 30, 2018 @05:06AM (#17430087)
That probably includes embedded maps in apps. They default to apple maps and this will make up a lot of usage. Direct map usage is probably more skewed towards Google Maps.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by evan_ on Friday June 29, 2018 @06:22PM (#17428303)
> Apple says its mapping service is now used more than three times as often as its next leading competitor on iPhones and iPads, with more than 5 billion map-related requests each week
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by jschmitz28 on Friday June 29, 2018 @08:30PM (#17428857)
I wonder whether this includes all of the times where I tap an address link from Messages, Apple Maps opens as the default (which you cannot change[1]), I realize the horror of what I've done, and then I copy/paste the address explicitly into Google Maps. Count one map-related request for each!

[1]: https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/228904

Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by 6nf on Friday June 29, 2018 @11:19PM (#17429303)
Yea I bet if you measure by in-app hours instead of frequency, Google Maps would come out on top even though it's not installed out of the box, and even though all map actions on an iPhone will invoke Apple Maps by default.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by LoSboccacc on Saturday June 30, 2018 @02:08AM (#17429707)
siri search may also hit "apple mapping services" - the phrasing is a swamp of marketspeak
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by endianswap on Friday June 29, 2018 @06:47PM (#17428434)
That means 75% is an upper bound, right? It's only 75% if Google had the only other maps product, and even they have two popular ones (Maps and Waze) that are likely to be installed.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by Retric on Saturday June 30, 2018 @08:44AM (#17430681)
No, it's more than so it could also be 79%. But, I don't think it's clear if they count Google as the competitor or each app separately.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by myrandomcomment on Friday June 29, 2018 @10:32PM (#17429195)
I use my phone with car play for nav, so Apple maps. Directions and time estimates are better then google. Finding near by stuff, google wins. To the other posters point, since I am a car play user, Apple won as far as that goes.
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by telcodud on Saturday June 30, 2018 @12:39AM (#17429506)
Google Maps, Waze, and other third-party apps are finally coming to CarPlay: https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-carplay-ios-12-will-fina...
Re:Apple is rebuilding Maps from the ground up by sildur on Friday June 29, 2018 @06:22PM (#17428302)
Google Maps is also preinstalled on most android phones.