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Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by drblast on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:27AM (#17303977)
I feel like the guys in Office Space here, but I'll buy some subscriptions to Vibe if somebody can explain theoretically how you can convert a large sum of ill-gotten cryptocurrency to usable money without getting immediately caught?

From the article it sounds like the attackers' wallet id is hard-coded into the malware. I'm not familiar with monero, but aren't all transactions in cryptocurrency public and permanent?

Wouldn't it be obvious from following that who is ultimately benefiting from this?

Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by HaseebQ on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:39AM (#17304095)
Monero is a privacy coin. I.e., all transactions are obfuscated by default. This makes it infeasible to follow such a money trail if the attacker is trying at all.

https://www.monero.how/how-does-monero-work-details-in-plain...

Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by oconnor663 on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:50AM (#17304208)
Other commenters are mentioning altcoins specifically designed for privacy, but there are ways to solve this problem with bitcoin too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency_tumbler
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by sschueller on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:39AM (#17304085)
Monero has the "laundry" part built in.

I also don't think these criminals necessarily convert to fiat to aquire what they need/want.

Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by jandrese on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:47AM (#17304177)
When you're talking about millions of dollars of bitcoin or other altcoin stolen...well, it's hard to smoke that much crack.
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by duxup on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:50AM (#17304200)
But it is possible to by some crack and sell it for cash.
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by MrLeap on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:58AM (#17304277)
You can buy gold with crypto.
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by jandrese on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @12:10PM (#17304385)
Millions of dollars worth? Or is it some penny-ante exchange like most Bitcoin-to-fiat services? Or will it have a strong know-your-customer rules that make it problematic for these actual criminals?
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by LyndsySimon on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @01:01PM (#17304931)
I don't see why not. Transactions worth tens of thousands of dollars are relatively common as I understand it.
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by f2n on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:30AM (#17304023)
>I'm not familiar with monero, but aren't all transactions in cryptocurrency public and permanent?

Not with monero (and possibly other cryptocurrencies)

Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by bwbw223 on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:37AM (#17304070)
That’s what they mean by it not being fungible.
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by JTbane on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @04:10PM (#17306510)
>Wouldn't it be obvious from following that who is ultimately benefiting from this?

It would not, unless you could trace that address to a person.

There are coin tumbler services that supposedly "clean" the origin of whatever crypto you are using by exchanging it.

There's also Monero, which essentially has this feature baked in.

Cashing out anonymously can be difficult- localbitcoins allows you to basically conduct ad hoc exchanges of crypto with other people.

Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by jiggunjer on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:15AM (#17309237)
You can only get caught if there is some link to your identity. A bitcoin ATM is anonymous. Wear a hat and sunglasses if you're worried about local cameras.
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by walrus01 on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @07:52PM (#17308066)
google "cryptocurrency tumbling". There are grey and black market services that will take a incoming input of a bitcoin transfer, keep some percentage, commingle it with a large number of other BTC, and attempt to obfuscate the output.
Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by barkingcat on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:38AM (#17304084)
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Re:How the modern containerization trend is exploited by att... by mmaunder on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:40AM (#17304110)
They use Monero because you don't need a GPU to mine it.