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Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by positr0n on Thursday May 17, 2018 @10:47PM (#17098289)
While people are offering anecdotes about their migraines:

1. If I don't eat sugar my migraine incidence goes from 8-12/month to ~1/month.

2. Excedrin works for me every time. The longer I wait to take it the longer it takes to work though. If I take it as soon as I feel a migraine coming on it will never progress to a painful stage. Before I discovered Excedrin I would have to go to sleep to end it, and occasionally throw up from the pain.

Note: My doctor said that Excedrin is a "perfect" drug for drug companies because caffeine is a trigger for many people, so they will take Excedrin and it will work, but then the caffeine will cause them to have another headache tomorrow and need it again. This doesn't happen to me though.

Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by simplulo on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:15AM (#17099877)
Ditto about Excedrin––I'm like the Johnny Appleseed of Excedrin in Europe. Most migraine sufferers here seem unaware of the treatment options, and often are unaware even that their headaches are migraines. Just suffering alone in silence. Being American, I'll happily discuss my health problems with strangers. I disagree with your doctor about Excedrin rebound headaches--most sufferers (in my experience) don't have migraines very often, and would notice the rebound pattern. Many if not most are drinking coffee anyway. Me, I have an espresso a day, but supposedly espresso (generally arabica) contains less caffeine than drip coffee (often robusta). I attribute its positive effects to phytochemicals other than caffeine.

About sugar, I tend to agree. My mornings greatly improved after I cut out "part of a healthy breakfast" orange juice.

Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by kazinator on Friday May 18, 2018 @09:26AM (#17101220)
> but then the caffeine will cause them to have another headache tomorrow and need it again.

I think that this is rather about people for whom lack of caffeine is a headache trigger. I.e. a withdrawal symptom because they are used to caffeine.

Of course a caffeine-loaded painkiller will just delay the withdrawal.

Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by learc83 on Thursday May 17, 2018 @10:55PM (#17098328)
If you want Excedrin without the caffeine you can just take a 500mg of acetaminophen and 500 mg of aspirin.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by ky738 on Thursday May 17, 2018 @11:27PM (#17098456)
can i replace aspirin with something else?
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by jjeaff on Friday May 18, 2018 @12:24AM (#17098677)
Ibuprofen, like aspirin is a nsaid. So it should have similar effect when combined with acetomeniphin (Tylenol). In fact, acetomeniphin, ibuprofen is also commonly prescribed together. And some studies have shown it to be as or more effective than opiods like oxycodone for certain types of pain.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by jonknee on Thursday May 17, 2018 @11:43PM (#17098521)
Well sure, but then you won't have an Excedrin equivalent.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by xab9 on Friday May 18, 2018 @01:29AM (#17098951)
To me paracetamol works. Or at least worked, until I got addicted, so we're trying to switch to apranax, which acts terribly slowly (plus we added divascan as a generic migraine reducer).

Now I'm at the point where doctors are telling me to avoid pain relief pills so four days out of seven are usually just shit. Makes life harder then it should be.

Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by _acme on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:10AM (#17099851)
You got addicted to Tylenol? Could you be more specific? Do you just mean that it stopped working for you? Because if you mean you truly developed a compulsive desire to take APAP, you must be the first person in the world ever to have done so.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by aiCeivi9 on Friday May 18, 2018 @06:10AM (#17100179)
It is possible to be addicted to anything and it is quite easy with any painkillers, it doesn't have to opioid based one. Subconscious fear of pain is enough to take them in advance, just in case, every day.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by xab9 on Friday May 18, 2018 @01:44PM (#17103395)
No no, not in advance, but when I could claw my eyes out because of the pain - the problem was that slowly, year after year it worked less and less.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by facetube on Friday May 18, 2018 @07:10AM (#17100449)
APAP metabolizes to AM404 in vivo, which acts indirectly on the cannabinoid receptor type 1. AM404 is likely responsible for a large amount of the pain relief (and, unsurprisingly, an anticonvulsant effect).

I suspect it's tolerance and not addiction, but docs see this and code it as "medication overuse headache" all the time.

Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by xab9 on Friday May 18, 2018 @01:43PM (#17103382)
Saridon but all the same I guess. Not my wording though, but the doctor's.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by TheSpiceIsLife on Thursday May 17, 2018 @11:53PM (#17098567)
Replace the caffeine with Diphenylmethylsulfinylacetamide?(Modafinil)
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by pietroglyph on Friday May 18, 2018 @12:52AM (#17098797)
Serious question: Can anyone pronounce a compound name that long in practice/conversation? Is there a specific naming rule?
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by isoprophlex on Friday May 18, 2018 @01:13AM (#17098891)
It looks intimidating but there's a very much countable set of possible sub-units that makes up those words.

With enough organic chem experience, pronouncing and grokking structure from a name becomes second nature.

In my head it immediately becomes chopped up into understandable units: "di phenyl methyl sulfinyl acetamide"

Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by kazinator on Friday May 18, 2018 @09:30AM (#17101253)
There is more than one naming rule for organic compounds. The standardized one is IUPAC. That is to say:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IUPAC_nomenclature_of_organic_...

IUPAC is a standards body; that is their nomenclature.

From an IUPAC name, you can work out the molecular structure but IUPAC names are often longer than older names for the same compounds.

Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by gliese1337 on Friday May 18, 2018 @01:15AM (#17098904)
There are chemical naming conventions, though I certainly couldn't describe them in detail. But yeah, I can usually pronounce such things if occasion calls for it. One simply has to be familiar with all of the common morphemes for different common bits of chemical structures, and read them off like a sequence of separate words that incidentally happen to have had the spaces removed.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by justinator on Friday May 18, 2018 @01:11AM (#17098874)
Germans?
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by _acme on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:09AM (#17099843)
No one would ever use that terminology in practice/conversation.
Re:New drug offers hope to those with severe migraines by magic_beans on Friday May 18, 2018 @06:07AM (#17100165)
You’ve never met any pharmacists then?