News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by donohoe on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @09:07AM (#16966696)
Maybe if you don't have ads on your site, otherwise its going to be a problem.
Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by viraptor on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @09:14AM (#16966748)
Why do you think so? After you document/publish what information you pass to which network, what problems do you expect related to the ads?
Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by someguy2018 on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @09:50AM (#16966990)
Because I apparently need affirmative check-the-box consent before I can actually use those ad networks.

I'm not doing anything shady: all the information I collect and why I collect it has always been in my privacy policy. But making people have to opt-in to see ads on the site is a big problem.

Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by donohoe on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @01:48PM (#16969401)
Correct. There are a few things to note here:

One single ad unit may try and load several tracking services so that it can re-target you later, track that the ad was served, and also load in extra services (Facebook Like button) that in turn track you for their own reasons.

On any given Page Load you DO not know in advance what ads will be in your page.

In getting User Consent before you load ads you cannot possibly know what the services are that will eb injected into the page ahead of time.

Thats an impossible situation.

Even if, and I stress this is hard, even if you were able to limit your ads from one network to direct-sold campaigns under the control of just a few agencies that agree to use only a subset of trackers and other services, you might still be talking 20 to 80 items you need to provide the user in a Consent Form.

Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by viraptor on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @10:03AM (#16967083)
You can do non-targetted ads without explicit consent as far as I understand. You only need it for the extra personal information use. Sure it's a bit worse for the publishers. (But I'm happy with that)
Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by someguy2018 on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @10:20AM (#16967212)
Where would "non-targeted" ads even come from? How can you use an ad network or even run a standard ad server in a way that doesn't share at least the reader's IP Address?

Mom and pop publishers who don't have the resources or ability to staff their own ad sales team are going to be in trouble. The big players who can work around this obstacle are going to be fine. I'm not happy about this.

Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by Angostura on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @10:47AM (#16967415)
IP address is only personally identifable info if it is coupled with other info that links it to a real person.

Storing an IP address by itself and sharing it is not, by itself PII

Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by someguy2018 on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @11:05AM (#16967593)
No, I'm pretty sure that is incorrect. The EU believes that an IP itself is personally identifiable and it must be secured and processed like any PII [1]. I think you could make a case that the IP being sent to an ad network is an "acceptable" business practice for which you don't need consent, but IANAL.

[1] https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2016/10/20/ecj-rules-ip-ad...

Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by donohoe on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @01:44PM (#16969360)
That is incorrect.

In the US, legally thats fine. In the EU they classify it as personal information.

Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by LoSboccacc on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @05:44PM (#16971999)
like, have you read the guideline?
Re:2018 reform of EU data protection rules by halfjoking on Tuesday May 01, 2018 @03:00PM (#16970263)
As a joke I might make a popup for each URL in our ads.txt files (at work) asking for consent. There are over 300 lines which I've always thought was ridiculous but maybe this will drive the point home to my boss.