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Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by vondur on Saturday April 14, 2018 @09:26PM (#16840578)
Is there really such a thing as a “future proof” job?
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by rando444 on Sunday April 15, 2018 @06:23AM (#16842081)
Engineering - There is always room for improvement and invention

Medicine - People always need care

Education - People always need to learn

Government - There's always government

Law Enforcement - Crime isn't likely to disappear in the foreseeable future

While the amount of jobs may vary, there are lots of areas of society that are not going to just disappear.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by annabellish on Sunday April 15, 2018 @09:36AM (#16842561)
>While the amount of jobs may vary

This is the important snippet. One engineer today can do the work of many engineers of yesteryear. One doctor today can be more productive than several were twenty years prior, and with MI techniques improving continuously that isn't looking to slow down at all. Educators have more tools available to them today than they ever have, and while I don't know if they've become more productive because of it it certainly seems to be helping squeeze budgets ever-tighter.

For government workers, there's many sub-groups who feel the same squeeze. Administrative work can be made vastly more efficient through software. Legal work can be sped up tremensouly by automating much of the grunt work.

Police armed with better tools, better information gathering, and better technology can serve more people with fewer officers, though again in this case it mostly seems to be serving to let budgets drop continuously.

It'll be a while until any of these areas are _automated_, but that doesn't mean that we need as many people working in them today as we would have ten years ago to achieve the same goals.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by learnstats2 on Sunday April 15, 2018 @08:56AM (#16842446)
Teaching jobs have decreased where I live, and are paid lower than they were, despite an increasing population of children.

One reason is technology - not all education tasks can be replaced, but some have been already. Combine that with increased competition for jobs generally, and I don’t see education careers being future-proof.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by tyingq on Sunday April 15, 2018 @08:53AM (#16842439)
"Medicine - People always need care"

The demographics of baby boomers vs subsequent generations seem to confirm this one as an employment growth area for the US.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by contingencies on Saturday April 14, 2018 @09:56PM (#16840666)
I found it laughable they think lawyers are robot proof.
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by labster on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:06PM (#16840709)
I don't. They'll just pass a law to make robot lawyers illegal. Rent seeking can be a powerful force against automation.
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by contingencies on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:12PM (#16840728)
It will play out like H&R Block in accounting. One firm will aggressively automate most procedural, standard advisory and contract law, undercutting the rest. They will be joined by others for the race to the bottom. The beginnings already exist. https://medium.com/legal-tech/legal-tech-startups-9755b18f93...

PS. Any legal firm without a strategy here can hire me (at lawyer rates) to tell them how to get with the program. ;)

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by paulddraper on Sunday April 15, 2018 @12:53PM (#16843490)
And yet TurboTax exists.

Why did no one pass a law against "robot accountants"?

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by PhasmaFelis on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:35PM (#16840801)
> They'll just pass a law to make robot lawyers illegal.

You make that sound like a bad thing.

God knows humans fuck a lot of things up. And a lot of legal professions are mostly busywork, which I assume AI can help with. But allowing machines to literally rule us is a long, long way from a good idea, and that's essentially what will happen if you let AI take over e.g. trial lawyering.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by gaius on Sunday April 15, 2018 @03:49AM (#16841752)
Indeed. I know a couple of people who have transitioned from programmers to lawyers and they say, a contract is just a program you run on a courtroom, the judge is the CPU.
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by toomuchtodo on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:03PM (#16840691)
Sounds straightforward for the Bar association and lawmakers to not allow software to practice law. What profession are lawmakers typically? Lawyers.

Some careers will be automated away, except for the ones that can’t be or those that aren’t allowed to by cabals.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by stale2002 on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:06PM (#16840705)
Lawyers can't be literally replaced by robots.

No, what will instead happen is that a lawyer will be given tools that will allow them to be 100% more efficient on their own, thereby reducing the available jobs by 50%.

Even something as simple as improved search tools makes researching much quicker, which is an important part of their job.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by toomuchtodo on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:08PM (#16840711)
That’s one way it could play out. Another way is that these tools that make lawyers more efficient increase the amount of legal work that takes place unnecessarily, extracting more dollars from the economy that the profession otherwise would.
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by haihaibye on Saturday April 14, 2018 @11:20PM (#16840973)
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by toomuchtodo on Saturday April 14, 2018 @11:57PM (#16841113)
Loved the essay! Thank you for sharing!
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by droidist2 on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:27PM (#16840775)
Maybe the courts won't be so backlogged, and public defenders so overworked, and we could give more people fair trials instead of pushing so hard for a guilty plea.
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by roywiggins on Sunday April 15, 2018 @01:50AM (#16841441)
They can always just cut public funding more and restore the status quo. It's not like their current lack of funds is because we are literally out of money, it's because they're not a priority.
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by forkLding on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:28PM (#16840782)
I think the biggest issue with lawyers getting automated is torts and court litigations or other pieces of legal work not to do with generating or reviewing contracts that can be automated quite easily which would mean no need for a human judge or adjudicator and thus a robot adjudicator who blindly follows a law written by "robots" too?

Note: I believe there won't be a need for human judges because robots tend to follow deterministic patterns much easily than non-deterministic, and thus you would probably not need humans to do much judging, displacing humans and turning to robots.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by labster on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:44PM (#16840823)
Law is a buggy, occasionally self-contradictory program intended to be executed by humans. If robot judges become a thing, we can be pretty sure all of the human programmers have been replaced already.

I'm reminded of the one Trek episode where Kirk is on trial, because the computer is never wrong. It was of course, because it had garbage input. But really, you gotta love UX where the VENT ATMO button is right next to the SKIP TRACK button.

Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by truculation on Saturday April 14, 2018 @10:23PM (#16840761)
Historian?
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by ilaksh on Sunday April 15, 2018 @01:39AM (#16841406)
The history of humanity will be documented by the superior beings that succeed us.
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by FranzFerdiNaN on Sunday April 15, 2018 @02:18AM (#16841496)
Shame no one wants to pay for that skill set.
Re:Students being prepared for jobs that no longer exist – h... by skookumchuck on Sunday April 15, 2018 @02:54AM (#16841593)
People prefer to think their ideas are new and haven't failed 100% of the time before.

"Hey! I just had a great idea! Rent control!"