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Re:Apple Watch Adoption by lokopodium on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:09PM (#16589189)
Not having to wear a watch is the best thing mobile phones did to me. Thanks, but no thanks.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by brownbat on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:09PM (#16589498)
I felt the same way, outside of one particular situation.

I tried running with a smartphone for a while. I was constantly afraid I would drop it. I tried armbands, pockets, sometimes I just carried a stopwatch and logged all my data in a spreadsheet like some kind of neanderthal.

Eventually though I bought a watch. It can tell me how I'm doing on my split times and play music into a cheap bluetooth headband. It's super lightweight. It can even detect different types of weightlifting, and tell me I just did a set of five deadlifts, or squats. It somehow knows the difference. It doesn't seem to understand sprinting at all though and has all sorts of weird bugs because I assume it has a small userbase.

I'm not sure any of my apps aside from activity tracking and music make any sense on a smaller device, so that is kind of weird. It's like I strap a tiny phone to my wrist in the mornings, then I swap it out for a larger copy an hour later.

Maybe one day phones will be like other accessories and we'll have eight of them and complain both about having too many and how we want more of them. And each night we'll debate internally about which one to wear to a certain function, and judge each other mercilessly for being over- or under-phoned.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by lokopodium on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:17PM (#16589535)
Sounds complicated. Most gym rats I know just use pen and paper clipboards. Then again, I guess most gym rats are not really tech savvy/apple fashion type.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by brownbat on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:28PM (#16589587)
> Sounds complicated. Most gym rats I know just use pen and paper clipboards.

I've done it both ways. Keeping track of paper and pen and taking notes is more complicated than just having something strapped to your wrist that does it all automatically with an occasional swipe or tap. Both ways are pretty simple so I don't want to exaggerate, but having the thing automatically do the thing is definitely simpler.

The random quirks of software are complicated... that's the world we live in though. New stuff is developed to replace the old stuff before we've even worked out the kinks in the old stuff.

I don't use an apple or high fashion watch for this, and while GPS and payments work, I don't have LTE for messaging like many do. A lot of watches are just a step up from a fitbit. Fitbit with maps I guess. Hmm, maybe I should have just gotten a fitbit. :)

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by scarface74 on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @10:33PM (#16590066)
Way before the Apple Watch came out I had a bulky Garmin GPS watch. I thought it was the greatest thing not to have to fumble with my phone to check my running stats.

If I were still a runner, I would buy an Apple Watch in a heartbeat especially now that it has cellular. Heck I would buy it if I still went to the gym (as opposed to having my home gym) just so I could leave my phone in the car.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by asendra on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:19AM (#16592166)
If you were still a runner, or did any type of sport with decent training, you would still be using Garmin or equivalent.

Apple watch just doesn't cut it. I own both (AW2 and Garmin 735xt) and I gave up trying to use the AW for any of the sports that I do. (Running, swimming, biking, gym, Triathlon)

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by scarface74 on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:53AM (#16592361)
I'm not an outdoor runner anymore, I have a home gym. But the only thing the Garmin did for me was measure my pace and distance. It wasn't any more or less accurate than my iPhone at the time (around 2010), it was more convenient.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by asendra on Thursday March 15, 2018 @09:20AM (#16592542)
If you train any sport with any kind of seriousness you usually end up needing more advanced training features, like HR pacing, zones training, intervals for speed workouts, cadence..

There is no way to do all that properly with an Apple Watch as of today. Not to mention the pain that is to wait for the screen to turn on to see if you are running at the proper pace/HR vs a Garmin watch.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by jlmendezbonini on Thursday March 15, 2018 @09:20AM (#16592544)
Which watch do you have that detects deadlifts or squats?
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by brownbat on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:29PM (#16597698)
It's coming from Google Fit on Android Wear. I assume using accelerometer and possibly heartrate data, so should be available on most devices.

Fair warning though... It's brilliant in some ways and alpha in others. I can't seem to edit a set if I tap too fast and log it incorrectly. It guesses one rep too many in about 30% of sets.

On the other hand it knows when I'm doing pull ups (ie, without moving my wrist) and accurately counts them, which seems like magic.

It calculates an extrapolated one rep max for all your sets.

On the other hand the web interface is not exactly feature rich for data junkies. And I'm not sure there's an easy way to export your data to a more useful spreadsheet.

It's ripe for someone to make a great lifting app. But you know, watches are niche, so don't expect any customers.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by pastastickers on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:10AM (#16592966)
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by aldanor on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:13AM (#16592114)
To each his own. Not having to carry a phone when running is the best thing digital watches did to me.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by ng-user on Thursday March 15, 2018 @09:56AM (#16592849)
I'm not too familiar with the Apple ecosystem, although I own a pair of Airpods & an S8, they work surprisingly well together.

Is it possible to store music for offline playback on the Watch and pair it with your Airpods for listening on the go? I'm not a fan of running/cycling with my phone so a Watch/Airpod combo sounds super useful to ditch the phone. I understand I'd need an iPhone for the Watch but I'm just curious if this use case would be possible.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by graeme on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:23AM (#16593064)
Yes. Take note, the music sync to watch can be absurdly slow. It does it over bluetooth for some reason, and needs the apple watch to be on a charger.

LTE with apple music works as well. Other streaming services such as spotify aren't yet supported without a phone.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by ubermonkey on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:11AM (#16592972)
Yes, you can store music on the watch and thereby go for a run without taking your phone.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by ng-user on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:22AM (#16593056)
Good to know, thanks for your response!
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by DonHopkins on Thursday March 15, 2018 @01:39PM (#16594908)
Can you store music on your Airpods? Then you wouldn't need to wear a watch or carry a phone. It could save space and bandwidth by splitting up the songs and only storing one channel in each ear.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by borgel on Thursday March 15, 2018 @02:43PM (#16595460)
You can't, but you can on Samsung's Gear Icon X earbuds [1]. Not sure if they do anything clever with the files though.

[1] http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/gear-iconx/

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by eckza on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:13AM (#16592983)
> Is it possible to store music for offline playback on the Watch and pair it with your Airpods for listening on the go?

Yes, and not only that but you can also stream Apple Music over LTE as well.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by ng-user on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:20AM (#16593037)
Hmmm, that's pretty sweet. As an S8/Samsung Gear/Spotify user I'll have to serious consider switching to iPhone/Apple Watch/Apple Music... thanks!
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by gambiting on Thursday March 15, 2018 @04:56AM (#16591267)
As a man, my watch is the only piece of jewelry I get to wear - I'm keeping mine forever, thanks.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by DonHopkins on Thursday March 15, 2018 @05:27AM (#16591381)
Nobody's forcing you to conform to outdated gender roles. It never stopped Mr. T [1]. If you really want to wear jewelry, don't let your testosterone hold you back. You know you can even pimp out your phone, too [2].

[1] http://www.blazenfluff.com/mr-t-jewelry-starter-kit-golden-c...

[2] http://www.mobiletor.com/iphone-princess-plus-the-worlds-mos...

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by coldtea on Thursday March 15, 2018 @07:51AM (#16591971)
>Nobody's forcing you to conform to outdated gender roles

Except good judgement.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by DonHopkins on Thursday March 15, 2018 @01:20PM (#16594740)
Outdated judgementalism.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by coldtea on Friday March 16, 2018 @12:16AM (#16598584)
Out of date doesn't mean stale or bad, just that it's not the fashion du jour.

People should think better than using categories like "outdated".

Or "judgementalism" for that matter. Not sure when being able to judge things (a prerequisite for not going through life blindly) went out of fashion.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by Lio on Thursday March 15, 2018 @06:03AM (#16591525)
I'm right with you. I have an Omega Speedmaster I bought used 12 years ago (can't remember how old it was then).

It's a mechanical, manually wound watch. Its movement was quite an old and inaccurate design even by mechanical watch standards. That is it does not meet official chronometer standards.

I've worn it almost every day since I first got it. I really enjoy wearing it for all sorts of reasons unrelated to its basic function that I'm not sure I can articulate in any form of convincing argument other than "Well, I like it anyway".

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by cardamomo on Thursday March 15, 2018 @06:44AM (#16591681)
Proposed edit: "I get to wear whatever kind of jewelry I want. I choose to wear only watches because I feel this is an important part of the way I express my gender identity."
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by ubermonkey on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:12AM (#16592979)
I'm not sure your comment is really adding anything here. Are you?
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by cardamomo on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:59AM (#16593392)
Yes, I believe that by being more precise in the ways we talk about gender identity and expression we affirm the experiences of those who do not fit in the gender binary and create space for all of us to engage more fluidly, openly, and playfully with gender.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by ubermonkey on Thursday March 15, 2018 @02:56PM (#16595568)
It's probably reasonable to interpret your initial comment as needlessly hostile at best, and an overt attempt at a derail at worst.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by cardamomo on Friday March 16, 2018 @07:14AM (#16599865)
You're right. I should have provided more context!
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by LaGrange on Thursday March 15, 2018 @07:52AM (#16591983)
Necklaces were accepted for masculine people since pretty much forever, though unfortunately nothing particularly extravagant — nobody can stop you, though. Same thing with arm bands and rings. For a while ear piercing was frowned upon, but that's done since at least the nineties. Nose piercing works perfectly fine.

In other words, wtf are you talking about, you get to wear as much jewellery as you want. I mean, you're not obligated to, and limiting yourself to a watch is a nice, minimalist concept, but even then whether it will read femme, masculine, or anything else, really depends on the watch, and, uh, almost everything else. Including who's doing the reading.

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by gambiting on Thursday March 15, 2018 @07:59AM (#16592029)
I feel like people here are reading far too much into what I said.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by DonHopkins on Thursday March 15, 2018 @01:30PM (#16594835)
Would you consider wearing a big talking computer medallion on a chain around your neck, like Twiki wears Dr. Theopolis? Twiki presents as extremely masculine.

https://youtu.be/FfzGayknSn4?t=1m

http://buckrogers.wikia.com/wiki/Theopolis

Re:Apple Watch Adoption by LaGrange on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:17AM (#16592147)
Well, in that case your phrasing really wasn't that great.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by eckza on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:17AM (#16593020)
How dare you speak in absolutes relative to your lifestyle / lived experience. This is the Internet. People will read way too far into it and get mad.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by b3b0p on Thursday March 15, 2018 @09:48PM (#16597996)
I feel naked without my G-Shock.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by pimeys on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:58AM (#16592399)
For me there's only one real use case to have an Android watch: diabetes monitoring. It is so nice how the watch vibrates you awake at night to eat something and how you can constantly see your latest value next to the weather and time. This has changed my life and my life expectancy completely.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by asavadatti on Thursday March 15, 2018 @03:53PM (#16596024)
What watch do you use?
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by pimeys on Friday March 16, 2018 @09:45AM (#16600546)
Huawei Watch, because it was one of the first getting the new Android Wear with watch complications, which are nice with blood glucose.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by ricardobeat on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:25PM (#16589279)
How about not having to wear a phone?
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by fiatpandas on Thursday March 15, 2018 @08:09AM (#16592090)
Exactly. For me it’s come full circle. “Wow there’s no point of me wearing a watch everywhere now that I have a phone. [10 years later] Cool! This new smart watch will allow me to untether from my phone!”
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by cesarb on Thursday March 15, 2018 @10:02AM (#16592901)
There's a xkcd about that: [Watches] https://xkcd.com/1420/
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by fiatpandas on Thursday March 15, 2018 @04:31PM (#16596269)
That is great, thank you!
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by spartanatreyu on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @07:52PM (#16589422)
I can see phones replacing/merging with wallets long before something replaces phones themselves
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by throwaway413 on Thursday March 15, 2018 @11:16AM (#16593541)
I recently got one of the Silk super slim wallet cases, and I haven’t used my separate wallet since. I carry around my ID, a debit card, and a bit of cash, and it works wonderfully. Feels so great to only have to worry about 1 thing when I leave the house instead of 2. And, I’ve found myself using Apple Pay more since I’m reaching for my phone now anyways to pay. I really thought I’d dislike it, with the added width to the phone, but so far pros heavily outweigh the cons.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by lokopodium on Wednesday March 14, 2018 @08:05PM (#16589477)
My experience is not mandatory for anyone else. I use the phone to actually talk 90% and quickly look something up/kill time when on the go 10%. I also like to keep interruptions to a minimum, so smart watches just don't have any purpose for me.
Re:Apple Watch Adoption by coldtea on Thursday March 15, 2018 @07:50AM (#16591967)
Because "having" (oh the humanity) to wear a watch was so unbearable?