Re:Facebook Really Is Spying on You, Just Not Through Your P...
by ryandrake on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @04:52PM
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Exactly. People would be outraged! and they will happily log into Facebook to post their outrage about Facebook.
Re:Facebook Really Is Spying on You, Just Not Through Your P...
by Trundle on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @07:42PM
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I remember when some news broke about Facebook doing something or other a year ago and the common response seemed to be to make an official sounding wall post saying "I do not give Facebook the right to do X with my data", sort of like Michael Scott yelling "I declare bankruptcy!"
I can see that happening again with voice recordings.
Re:Facebook Really Is Spying on You, Just Not Through Your P...
by SilasX on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @06:20PM
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True. At the same time, there are pretty solid rules against recording the audio of someone's conversation that would be unambiguously illegal and allow for actual prosecution.
But it's an interesting question: if someone credibly proved that FB was "wiretapping" on such a massive scale, would they get prosecuted? How much could they do in their own defense? Are they so enmeshed that prosecutors wouldn't bother?
Feels like a case of "unstoppable force meets immovable object".
Re:Facebook Really Is Spying on You, Just Not Through Your P...
by fjsolwmv on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @08:03PM
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Any app that had microphone permission at all already has your permission to use your microphone.
Re:Facebook Really Is Spying on You, Just Not Through Your P...
by herogreen on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @05:05PM
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Speaking of badware: last week I found Mac Afee installed on the laptop of a relative that I manage. I assured me that he had not installed it himself (I had not installed anything actually). Could it have come from windows updates ?
Re:Facebook Really Is Spying on You, Just Not Through Your P...
by mynameisvlad on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @05:53PM
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No, Windows Update doesn't distribute third party software. And even if it did, MSE is technically a competitor to McAfee so there wouldn't really be a solid reason to distribute it.
Your relative probably installed something and pressed "Next" through all the dialogs including the ones asking if they want to install super helpful bundled software.
Re:Facebook Really Is Spying on You, Just Not Through Your P...
by plaguuuuuu on Wednesday March 07, 2018 @05:44PM
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if you manage their device there's a great chance they have no fucking idea what they're doing and could easily have installed it unintentionally
It would likely be a blip in the news, and then people would move on, as usual.
Remember the Sony rootkit fiasco? People still buy Sony, and most people probably either never heard of that incident, don't remember, or don't care. Buying whatever the new Sony gizmo of the day is is more important to them.
Microsoft has had endless spyware fiascos, and people still routinely buy Windows, as long as they can play their games or run Office, that's all that matters to most of them.
Then there have been scandals like Enron, where the execs knew that they were doing something that was clearly illegal, and that their company really would be devastated if what they did was ever revealed. These "smartest people in the room" did it anyway.
Corporate history is full of just such deceptive and destructive practices. I'm not sure I'd put Facebook above that sort of thing, a priori.