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Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by jacquesm on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:03PM (#16373090)
Poor frogs. The water temp just got upped a couple of degrees. Too late to jump out or not just yet?

Some relief for frogs that make it out of the pot:

https://mailinabox.email/

https://redmail.com/

https://protonmail.com/

https://www.fastmail.com/

Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by krrrh on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @02:24AM (#16374126)
I’m a fairly happy fastmail user, and have been intrigued by ProtonMail. Has anyone made a switch between them or run both for an extended period of time?

I do like he idea of encrypted-at-rest, and the desktop bridge seems like a decent solution for syncing locally, but not having search on mobile seems like it would be a major drawback for my use cases.

An app I have always wished for is something that would store an offline indexed archive of my email on mobile, protected by passphrase and independent of any provider.

As an aside, what’s the deal with Redbox? I’d never heard of them and $650/a for 25GB makes it seem like their pricing matrix hasn’t been updated since the 90s. The stock photography doesn’t help with that impression.

Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by mtgx on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @02:54AM (#16374251)
ProtonMail is quite nice. Just try it out. I would suggest you always keep it open in a tab and save your password in a password manager, otherwise you may "forget" to log to that email and may not use it often. Also make sure you set-up getting your emails into ProtonMail from day one.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by pymai on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @07:46AM (#16375339)
"Also make sure you set-up getting your emails into ProtonMail from day one"

could you explain this a bit more? ive been routing my gmail to protonmail since i started using it but im slowly changing accounts from using gmail to protonmail as i go

Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by exolymph on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:02PM (#16373366)
Happy FastMail customer over here.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by stevehawk on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @12:22AM (#16373674)
Fastmail is great. I'm going on nearly 10 years of service I think.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by vinw on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @04:04AM (#16374528)
15 years here. It just works.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by bballer on Thursday February 15, 2018 @07:37AM (#16383534)
I'll hop on this train. 7 happy years for me!
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by pure_ambition on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:37PM (#16373240)
Lol. Leave it to somebody on HN to reduce a problematic corporate decision to a play on existential dread.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by jacquesm on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:50PM (#16373306)
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by krylon on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @03:29AM (#16374367)
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by chrisper on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @04:34AM (#16374647)
Does not allow custom domains.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by satish-setty on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @04:38AM (#16374660)
Also, https://mail.zoho.com.

They have a 5GB free-tier if you've got a custom domain. I've been a customer for years and very happy overall.

Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by PuffinBlue on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:56AM (#16376127)
Seconded. I've used them for years to and i currently have paid accounts. I administer accounts for others to and i find the interface more intuitive than gsuite.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by Zpalmtree on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @08:49AM (#16375637)
Happy user of mailinabox here. Switched to it after openmailbox.org decided to kill their userbase by bringing out some completely unfunctional "new" UI along with three days of unscheduled downtime, which still doesn't work months on.

Barely no maintenance and I can add a prefix to all of my email addresses to easily blacklist anywhere that sells my email or unsubscribe links don't work for.

Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by waldfee on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @02:02AM (#16374048)
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by PuffinBlue on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:58AM (#16376144)
Seconded. Glad to see this here. They have their foibles (current webmail interface is very old school, filters are a little limited etc) but I'm a paying customer for several years now (asking side zoho's mail offering) and am happy.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by Qwertious on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:15PM (#16373132)
Frogs will jump out of slowly-heating pots. Unless they're lobotomized in a certain specific way, which was the experiment that created the popular myth.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by sterlind on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @02:25AM (#16374129)
I was curious what sort of lobotomy was employed:

> In 1869, while doing experiments searching for the location of the soul, German physiologist Friedrich Goltz demonstrated that a frog that has had its brain removed will remain in slowly heated water, but an intact frog attempted to escape the water when it reached 25 °C.[1][5]

Ah, the whole brain then.

Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by jacquesm on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:18PM (#16373151)
Only on HN...
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by Qwertious on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @02:42AM (#16374194)
I also point this out whenever someone mentions the frog analogy on reddit. So, also on reddit.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by b0rsuk on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @08:42AM (#16375601)
In Poland, right-wingers / conservatives use "lemmings" as a derogatory term for political opponents and basically anyone who doesn't agree with them. It isn't because they're fans of the game from 90's. There was a Disney animal "documentary" which had a scene with lemmings jumping off a cliff. The thing is, lemmings don't do that (don't suicide). In the movie, they were pushed for dramatic effect.

Moral of the story: conservatives in Poland live in their own delusions.

Redneck Mythbusters: put the term in search engine. Youtube works well most of the time. If you can't find multiple videos or photos showing it happening, it's probably not real. If all you can find is reports like "a bloke told me", it's probably not real.

If you're not at work, try it with "fluffer". Some stories are too good to be true.

Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by jacquesm on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @06:27AM (#16375044)
Maybe you should try to contribute to the discussion instead of trying to derail it with trivia? Especially if that's something you do repeatedly.
Re:AMP for email is a terrible idea by vntok on Wednesday February 14, 2018 @09:52AM (#16376092)
Maybe you should have selected a better analogy instead of a flawed one?