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Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by a13n on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:06AM (#16341243)
"Waymo is getting .34% of Uber's equity in the settlement, which at a $72 billion valuation, is valued at about $245 million."

https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/961993637348327424

Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by theptip on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:12PM (#16341924)
That's a stale valuation, Uber's latest round was significantly down from that. The Softbank tender valued Uber at $48B, so a more up-to-date estimate would be:

  0.34 * 0.01 * $48B = $0.163B
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by rrdharan on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:26PM (#16342044)
On my mobile device this amusingly read as “= $0.” before I realized I needed to scroll to the right.

Who knows, perhaps that may end up being the most accurate value..

Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by malandrew on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:37PM (#16342147)
A tender offer is not a round. Most tender offers for stock (common or preferred) in illiquid companies are at a discount to new preferred stock from the most recent round.

This happened with multiple other companies like Facebook and AirBnB, so I don't see why in the case of Uber that anyone who is informed can conclude that it was a down round.

Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by ahupp on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:18PM (#16341973)
They aren't directly comparable given the difference between common and preferred shares.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by fbdjskajxb on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:52PM (#16342284)
Do we know if Uber is getting preferred or common shares in the settlement?
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by fbdjskajxb on Friday February 09, 2018 @03:19PM (#16343516)
s/Uber/Google
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by jmkni on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:23AM (#16341440)
Those numbers are insane.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by minimaxir on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:31AM (#16341526)
Insanely low, given that Waymo could have crippled Uber if successful.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by mseebach on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:56AM (#16341776)
Could they, though? Uber's valuation is based on its taxi technology business. The self-driving stuff might be their long play, but certainly not the source of their value.

I have no idea what kinds of damages Waymo might have been able to extract from Uber, but it seems very unlikely that it would have been in the multi-billion-dollar range. $245 million is a huge sum, add to that the saved cost of ongoing litigation.

Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by jacksmith21006 on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:55PM (#16343334)
Uber value is based on adopting SDC. Otherwise the business does not work long term.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by richardknop on Saturday February 10, 2018 @09:54AM (#16347516)
Nonsense. SDC becoming viable on scale is decade or two in the future. Uber is valued based on its ride sharing and food delivery business. Investors apparently believe it can be profitable on big scale therefor good investment.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by sah2ed on Saturday February 10, 2018 @03:10AM (#16346430)
> Uber value is based on adopting SDC.

Not sure what you were trying to say?

Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by CodeWriter23 on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:46PM (#16342217)
The value of the taxi technology is predicated on surviving high losses for a few years to secure riders for the autonomous fleet that will emerge. The driver component in the current equation is 100% subsidized by investors.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by mstade on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:34AM (#16341563)
So does this mean perhaps their case wasn't as strong as they thought?
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by mbesto on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:12PM (#16342474)
How so? How do you prove the financial implications of a technology that doesn't quite exist or provide financial benefit right now?
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by emn13 on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:06PM (#16342970)
You use your opponents own estimates of that value. Uber would have had those; and I'd be willing to bet they were sky-high given their strategy.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by xapata on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:06PM (#16341873)
They were asking for about $1b in damages, according to an article I just read. This is a substantial fraction of that.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by malandrew on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:38PM (#16342161)
I thought it was $1.9b originally.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by xapata on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:22PM (#16342571)
Either way. Generally the asked-for damages is much larger than the settlement.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by DannyBee on Friday February 09, 2018 @06:42PM (#16344811)
This is actually a pretty typical fraction for a settlement.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by JumpCrisscross on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:21PM (#16343070)
I am surprised a mandatory licensing of Waymo’s technology wasn’t part of the settlement.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by tannhauser23 on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:22PM (#16343075)
My takeaway is that Uber does not in fact possess any Waymo trade secrets. Otherwise they would have included a license as part of the settlement.
Re:Uber and Waymo Reach Settlement by jfig on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:55AM (#16341754)
It's just the official admission of guilt. Nor for the money.