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Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by electricslpnsld on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:22PM (#16209591)
You don't even have to go to Montana. Some of my neighbors in Oakland have been beefing with a local restaurant/nightclub that keeps blocking off access to public waterfront and sends beefy rent-a-cops to intimidate people in the public space.
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by gamblor956 on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:45PM (#16209743)
Please name the restaurant. I have some connections with Oakland City Council and they can take a look into this.
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by electricslpnsld on Monday January 22, 2018 @09:23PM (#16210396)
Eve's Waterfront. Neighbors have complained that they've gone as far as blocking off the San Francisco Bay Trail during bigger events at night.

Edit: Interesting, I dug up some zoning documents from the restaurant, and the Bay Conservation and Development Commission specifically called out the actions they are doing now (blocking the trail, blocking public access decks) as violations on page 4.

[1] http://www2.oaklandnet.com/oakca1/groups/ceda/documents/agen...

Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by nielsbot on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @01:43AM (#16211532)
Man it would be a real shame if the Oakland Department of Public Health received a spate of complaints and found unsanitary conditions in the kitchen...
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by nielsbot on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @03:45PM (#16217506)
To clarify: Just for discussion purposes, not actually recommending this course of action.
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by alex_hitchins on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @04:43AM (#16212206)
Would it also not be likely illegal (?) and as unethical as their action?
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by nielsbot on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @03:44PM (#16217497)
It was not a serious suggestion. Sorry HN. I suppose you could get in trouble for misusing city resources? Assuming that didn't actually have any violations.
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by alex_hitchins on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @04:14AM (#16221394)
Thank you. While I believe their actions are disgraceful, it only adds fuel to their fire. My belief is we need to find a way to understand their concerns as best we can to show them their fears are un-grounded. Even if it was in jest which I fully appreciate, to the 'other side' it looks like what it was.
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by gamblor956 on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @10:49AM (#16214463)
Call the cops the next time the restaurant tries to do this. The City manager has made them aware of the situation.
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by f2n on Monday January 22, 2018 @10:05PM (#16210631)
Sounds like a great opportunity for some IRL trollin. Get it on film + name and shame the venue.
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by lowpro on Monday January 22, 2018 @11:07PM (#16210909)
Or filing of civil/criminal charges if they've been warned before. If a private entity uses public space as a private space and prevents people from using it, that's illegal. You can do a lot more than name and shame.
Re:Private landowners blocking access to public lands in the... by f2n on Monday January 22, 2018 @11:33PM (#16211020)
Definitely do that too