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Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by catdog on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:23AM (#16095194)
You also have to do an awful lot of exercise to burn a substantial amount of calories.
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by flipp3r on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:40AM (#16095460)
Every day the human body burns a substantial amount of calories just being alive. You have to simply not eat insulin-raising bullshit for a couple days, and start eating less or even fasting so your body starts burning the bodyfat it's been storing all that time. Worked for me (-8kg in approx 2 weeks) no exercise involved..
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by drdrey on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:02AM (#16095326)
I ran 16 miles this morning, burned over 2000 calories. But I won't lose any weight, I am going to eat those calories right back.
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by tinymollusk on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:17AM (#16095382)
That is indeed a substantial amount of exercise! Awesome work.

In a thought experiment (where it's possible to know the exact amounts) -- do you think consuming exactly 2k kcal is perfectly even with burning exactly 2k kcal? IE, is there overhead to transform the energy? Does it account for physical/energy waste?

Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by drdrey on Friday January 12, 2018 @12:14PM (#16134430)
I don't know, anecdotally it seems that if I spent X calories exercising, my hunger will adjust until I consume roughly X extra calories.

The energy expenditure does account for waste, I think only about 20-25% of the energy spent is turned into mechanical output

Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by jnordwick on Monday January 08, 2018 @10:40AM (#16097439)
2000? The standard estimate of net calories burned (cals above basal rate) is 0.98kgkm (i think it is 0.98, i usually round up to 1).

You might enjoy this: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/running

Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by jnordwick on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:32PM (#16099476)
That should read 0.98 × kg × km
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by drdrey on Friday January 12, 2018 @12:11PM (#16134399)
0.98 x 73 x 25.75 = 1842 kcal, not too far off
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by niels8472 on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:30AM (#16095841)
I have experienced the same issue when I burn larger amounts of calories. I've found burning about 500-800 calories (I run for about an hour) at the end of the day some time after dinner is my sweet spot.
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by carlmr on Monday January 08, 2018 @02:43AM (#16095268)
If there's any exercise that has helped me shed weight, it's hiking. By being moderately active throughout the whole day you easily burn an extra 1500-2000kcals. Jogging has never really helped in shedding weight for me, just general fitness.
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by adrianN on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:20AM (#16095390)
How many hours per day do you hike? You probably have to hike for an hour to offset just one chocolate bar.
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by carlmr on Monday January 08, 2018 @08:40AM (#16096607)
I'm talking about proper hikes I do on the weekend. Like 6-10h. That's 6-10 chocolate bars, and I don't eat that much on these hikes.
Re:Exercise Alters Our Microbiome by jnordwick on Monday January 08, 2018 @10:51AM (#16097530)
Considering hiking is mostly walking, and calorie burn rates are dominated by distance, I'm guessing between 30 and 50 km? You generally burn about a quarter of what you would above basal metabolic rate per unit time walk versus running. So this would be equivalent to about a 1:30 to 2:30 run. Its very good,but certainly isn't at the level where you get to ignore food.