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Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by thinkMOAR on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:36AM (#15923048)
That always makes me giggle, when i hear people say, "FB sucks, i don't use FB anymore, i'm only on Instagram...."
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by bamboozled on Thursday December 14, 2017 @11:03AM (#15923303)
Instagram is also becoming a monotonous and boring platform to use. The more ads and other junk features they cram into it, the less people will want to use it.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by evanriley on Thursday December 14, 2017 @12:20PM (#15924155)
Instagram used to be my go-to social media, and the millions of images of peoples dinners didn't annoy me, but I find myself using it less and less because of the non-chronological feed. I still don't understand how it can possibly be better than a chronological one.

If anything I wish they would give an option in the settings to make it chronological

Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by bigdubs on Thursday December 14, 2017 @12:24PM (#15924201)
Generally if they keep a feature it means that the majority of people were more engaged by it, so the algo feed is probably increasing engagement across the board but alienating a few users.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by whatever_dude on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @08:45AM (#15960112)
This. When companies start looking at features and changes through the lenses of a metric, everything follows that metric. I'm sure that drives more engagement, therefore it's enforced on everybody.

Unfortunately they're not measuring abandonment or annoyance. Metrics like these are the short-term gain investors of today tech, always looking into the today and ruining the tomorrow.

Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by thisacctforreal on Thursday December 14, 2017 @09:20PM (#15929234)
It's not so specific as alienating a few users, it's removing an intuitive UX feature in exchange for the ability to control the order of the content you see, which can increase engagement.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by p0nce on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:41PM (#15926794)
The same things happened with Twitter and FB. There are some tweets I've seen dozens of time because the algorithm think it is relevant, but I just want the latest thank you.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by misiti3780 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @02:09PM (#15925726)
Instagram continually shows me photos from 2-3 days prior. I get shitty ads on a regular basis. The quality of the platform is definitely degrading quickly.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by abakker on Thursday December 14, 2017 @11:41AM (#15923703)
Pinterest for the long game!

I've never understood the pseudo-ephemerality of instagram. Even if you save stuff, or like it, the interface makes it very difficult to recall stuff from more than a few days ago.

Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by lambdas on Thursday December 14, 2017 @11:54AM (#15923901)
Oh god no. I hide their results from google searches, that horrible wall they put up to make you sign up to read something or look at an image.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by ahartmetz on Thursday December 14, 2017 @01:17PM (#15924844)
How do you do that? I couldn't find a good way when I looked. It is incomprehensible to me why Google supports the incredibly annoying bait (high res image for Googlebot) and switch (sign up to see high res in browsers) tactic of Pinterest. That shit certainly doesn't make me sign up, it makes me hate Pinterest.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by Xunxi on Thursday December 14, 2017 @02:32PM (#15926001)
Chrome extension called Personal Blocklist (by Google) There's a Firefox port, I'm not sure where the data goes.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by aschampion on Thursday December 14, 2017 @12:03PM (#15923996)
> I've never understood the pseudo-ephemerality of instagram. Even if you save stuff, or like it, the interface makes it very difficult to recall stuff from more than a few days ago.

Hypothesis: these businesses all monetize # of interactions (even if CPI is low), which they want to maximize by structuring interactions such that there is constantly new content that encourages obsessive checking. A sense of ephemerality of content reinforces that behavior ("I have to check because there is new content and it may be gone if I wait to check").

Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by sinatra on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:14PM (#15927675)
Well, yeah, because they're talking about FB the product, not FB the company. From that point of view, "FB sucks and I'm using Instagram now" is a very valid statement.
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by joshcanhelp on Thursday December 14, 2017 @11:59AM (#15923945)
That was me for a while before the cognitive dissonance caught up :)
Re:2017 Was Bad for Facebook. 2018 Will Be Worse by spraak on Thursday December 14, 2017 @12:21PM (#15924166)
Well yeah, FB owns IG now, but it wasn't always that way.