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Re:Tesla Semi by hilbertseries on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:01AM (#15719747)
>think things through pretty comprehensively from all angles and plan effectively for what's needed.

Is that why model 3 production is going so well?

Re:Tesla Semi by aerovistae on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:14AM (#15720129)
Pretty sure Model 3 production is going amazingly well, yeah. Astoundingly well. But the media's portrayal of it has people convinced otherwise.

Let's try this perspective instead:

"Decade-old electric car company moves up plan for mass production of new affordable long-range sedan by 2 years"

And then ask ourselves, after moving it up by 2 years, does a 3-month delay mean "things are going badly"?

If I say I'm going to leap 500 feet, and then I leap 450 feet, do you say I failed?

Re:Tesla Semi by CPLX on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:44AM (#15721866)
> If I say I'm going to leap 500 feet, and then I leap 450 feet, do you say I failed?

Yes, that's what the word failed means.

Re:Tesla Semi by drusepth on Friday November 17, 2017 @09:59AM (#15722400)
Considering the long jump record is 30ft, I'd say he technically failed his lofty goal, but was still more successful at jumping than anyone else.

I think that's the point the OP above is trying to get at.

Re:Tesla Semi by lafar6502 on Saturday November 18, 2017 @01:34PM (#15730073)
and if your leap is 1 foot instead?
Re:Tesla Semi by wils1245 on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:19PM (#15723891)
If I owe you $500, and I give you $450, does that mean I paid back the loan?

The consequence of not living up to an expectation depends on what's riding on that expectation. For a company trying to live up to a valuation higher than companies producing orders of magnitude more vehicles, I think it matters.

Re:Tesla Semi by baq on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:53AM (#15720311)
you over-promised and under-delivered, in that sense you failed.

does it matter though?

Re:Tesla Semi by _Codemonkeyism on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:57AM (#15720634)
I'd say someone who buys robots and operates them manually by men and claims "air resistance" is the biggest challenge in robotics because they should move so fast you can't see them, looks to me as not very sophisticated. But I don't operate robots.
Re:Tesla Semi by _Codemonkeyism on Saturday November 18, 2017 @04:21AM (#15728369)
"It's like if you can see the robot move, it's too slow. We should be caring about air friction like things moving so fast. You should need a strobe light to see it"

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4122890-tesla-approaches-te...

Re:Tesla Semi by Aron on Sunday November 19, 2017 @02:47AM (#15732791)
He wasn't saying that air resistance is currently a problem. The current problem is that the robots don't move fast enough for air resistance to be a problem. He's basically pushing the question 'Going faster is obviously good. What happens if we go really really fast?'
Re:Tesla Semi by sumedh on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:58AM (#15721275)
> Is that why model 3 production is going so well?

I think OP is talking about the big picture, there will always be issues like the on with the production.

Re:Tesla Semi by colordrops on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:06AM (#15719769)
I've seen dozens of them around LA. Give it a few months and if it doesn't ramp then there might be a problem.