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Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by bbarn on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @02:17PM (#15241029)
So according to that, software developers are around 20% female. That seems high to me, from my own experiences.

Even still, with all the "let's get more women in tech" stuff I read, are there initiatives to get women in the other jobs even further to the left on that graph? (largely physical labor jobs)

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by foldr on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @02:18PM (#15241042)
Yes, of course there are. You can just google it. E.g. here is a relevant result for "women in construction":

https://www.ucatt.org.uk/women-construction

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by microcolonel on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:00PM (#15241482)
> That seems high to me, from my own experiences.

There are specific factors, such as the age of a company, the experience distribution/requirements, standard working arrangements (hours, overtime expectation, on-call) which are correlated with deviations from the mean.

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by jhgb on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @02:50PM (#15241385)
> are there initiatives

No, people tend to be only interested in professions that are "hip" enough. Nobody is going to glamorize plumbers (even though they certainly should!).

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by astura on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:16PM (#15241619)
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by pbhjpbhj on Thursday September 14, 2017 @07:45AM (#15246933)
That's an interesting article.

Twice as many women were suggested they could take up a trade as wished that they were offered that opportunity .. but the article spins that as 24% weren't suggested to take up a trade.

I live in UK and was never given any career guidance, I wish a trade had been offered to me too; I'm not sure that's a difference based on sex though.

I hate the common form "these women weren't given X, it's horribly sexist" without comparison to show it was even different for men at all.

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by jhgb on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:19PM (#15241645)
I stand repaired!
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by chrshawkes on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @05:46PM (#15243021)
Things got out of control with the advent of the social network movie. All of a sudden the general population thought coders were snorting cocaine off strippers in Palo Alto while wiping their bums with hundred dollar bills. Now everybody wants to join the party.
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @06:46PM (#15243446)
Yeah. It's the guys in the sales dept that are doing the coke off of strippers.

Anything to make the sale.

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by irrational on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @07:59PM (#15243867)
Wait, that's not what you do?
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by yung_endian on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @02:20PM (#15241059)
>That seems high to me, from my own experiences.

It's almost as if your own individual experiences are not indicative of population-level trends at large

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by joenot443 on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @02:46PM (#15241334)
Just a friendly reminder as I noticed you're new - patronising, nonproductive comments like this don't go over as well here as they do on reddit.
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by screaminghawk on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @04:02PM (#15242051)
I don't think the comment is nonproductive. The majority of "women in tech" issues like this post is referring to, are belittled/misunderstood due to the differences in individual experiences. It's a fair comment to point out at this sometimes works in the reverse as well (i.e. sometimes there are more woman and/or fewer problems).
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by seizethecheese on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:31PM (#15241758)
Your comment is equally patronizing.
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by shawndumas on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:55PM (#15241988)
but it was productive
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by yung_endian on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @04:41PM (#15242409)
I've been lurking here since it started. It's not patronizing - it's pointing out a basic statistical fact. Has the bar on HN truly fallen so low that pointing out that anecdote != data is now considered rude?
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by StavrosK on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @08:35PM (#15244017)
"Pointing out" is what you did, "rude" was how you did it.

For example:

"It's almost as if you don't understand that rudeness is about the tone instead of the content".

Or:

"It looks like you're trying to move the goalposts; would you like some help with that?"

Or:

"> 'It's not patronizing - it's pointing out a basic statistical fact' Interesting how you think the two are mutually exclusive."

Etc.

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by vacri on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @06:09PM (#15243198)
It's really weird that you've been on the site for 10 years and only just now decided to bust forth with a handful of comments of this low quality.
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by chrshawkes on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @05:44PM (#15243009)
"Has the bar on HN truly fallen so low that pointing out that anecdote != data is now considered rude?"

yes... yes it has :)

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by astura on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:06PM (#15241523)
Is your experience in the SF startup scene? Corporate land is a lot different from the Valley as far as the makeup of the workforce.
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by speby on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:41PM (#15241857)
And likewise, are there more initiatives to get men into jobs that are more heavily skewed towards women?
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @03:52PM (#15241964)
Not as strongly, but there is demand for male nurses - they need stronger people to help move people around, and men are stronger. (biological facts, etc)
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by klipt on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @04:35PM (#15242345)
But does the people-mover have to be a nurse? Can't you just hire a cheap, uneducated muscle-man to move your people?
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by throwawayjava on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @05:27PM (#15242869)
"people movers" made me laugh.

You could, but might face liability. Also, perhaps not a full time job but also not easy to schedule. So you'd be paying someone to sit around 90% of the time.

Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by LanceH on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @11:11PM (#15244734)
This occupation is "orderly".
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by drpgq on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @06:57PM (#15243519)
It would be interesting to know for different types of software developers, embedded, front end, scientific etc. Sometimes 20% seems high to me, but I only work at one company so I'm sure I'm missing something.
Re:Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950 by chrshawkes on Wednesday September 13, 2017 @05:42PM (#15243000)
I'm sure that will work swimmingly. The "Everybody Can Code" craze led to a ton of bootcamps and now they are falling one by one. Turns out not everybody can code.