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Re:Is the open office layout dead? by emerged on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:47PM (#15061364)
I would honestly rather change careers than work in a cubicle. They give me a feeling of deep existential dread. Do some actually prefer them?
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by kelnos on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:04AM (#15061838)
I feel like the aversion toward cubicles is more psychological and association-based than really makes sense. A cubicle is (as a sibling poster pointed out) just an office without a door. Sure, the walls don't always go all the way to the ceiling, and they're thinner than real walls, but they serve a similar purpose.

I think we just grew up through the Dilbert-esque "cubicle farm" revolt, and we have negative associations that aren't entirely deserved.

If cubicles are a way to cram more people into a space because offices take up too much room, and open office plan is a way to cram more people into a space because cubicles take up too much room. And yet there's still the sentiment among open-office-plan workers that they wouldn't want to go back to cubicles, when most of the reasons they don't like the open office plan would be solved by cubicles.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by emerged on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:22AM (#15061902)
I pretty much agree. They also feel like shantytowns in a way since they are flimsy pieces of material. I'd imagine that a nicer looking quality framework of wood without the ghastly florescent lighting would go a long way to improve perception.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by Aeolun on Monday August 21, 2017 @05:37AM (#15063190)
It's funny, since I see restaurants that generate only $70 per meal (around 2 hours or so?) build super elegant wooden partitions that accomplish the exact same thing that cubicles do in an office environment.

It seems like it shouldn't be too expensive to do that...

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by jnwatson on Monday August 21, 2017 @11:00AM (#15065071)
Herman Miller (the company that invented cubicles) makes very nice modern-looking cubicles with doors.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by mindcrime on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:21PM (#15061693)
Compared to no walls at all? Fuck yeah. When I was at IBM, they had us (~60 people) in one big room, with no walls, no noise-dampening, right next-door to a server room (with the accompanying server hum coming through the walls). I used to go downstairs to the "cubicle hell" area and just walk around and dream about how nice it would be to work down there. There was a point I'd have paid money to move to the cube-farms, compared to the hell-hole we were in.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by primeblue on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:15AM (#15062812)
They say hell will make you dream of heaven.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by mindcrime on Monday August 21, 2017 @09:05AM (#15064238)
Sounds like a line from a Dio song. \m/
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by mc32 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:45PM (#15061569)
Cubicles were maligned as passé ("cubicle farms") and staid so that managers and facilities could present open office spaces as au courant, forward and entrepreneurial so that in turn they could save in area per employee expenses.

If they can call cubicles "farms" (echoing sharecropping, drudgery), then we could just as easily and aptly call open office layouts "sardine cans" with all the earned baggage that comes with.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sogen on Monday August 21, 2017 @03:44AM (#15062666)
Some ideas:

"Open cans"

"Sweat farms"

"Sweat cans"

"Headphones farms"

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by quantumhobbit on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:43AM (#15063809)
I'm fond of "sneeze distribution center"
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sogen on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:04PM (#15067385)
Ah, "cold distribution center" too
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by gruturo on Monday August 21, 2017 @09:47AM (#15064570)
Chicken farms. Don't forget to cluck regularly.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sogen on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:03PM (#15067380)
Better: I'll use "chicken cage" from now on! Thanks for the idea lol
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by jnwatson on Monday August 21, 2017 @11:02AM (#15065081)
The traditional "bullpen" works well.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by mc32 on Monday August 21, 2017 @11:54AM (#15065444)
Not too bad, need to trend that label in order to expose these bull pens for what they are.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by rhizome on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:54PM (#15061383)
Compared to open plan? Absolutely. Even half-walls are better.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by djsumdog on Monday August 21, 2017 @01:21AM (#15062132)
I find even half walls to be as bad as open layouts.

I hated the cube for years until 2012 when I had my first open workspace job. It was a small shop and space was limited. The next two shops I worked at were also in open floor plan layouts. At least with the most recent one I could work from home 3 to 4 days out of the week.

I have to admit, I started to miss the cube. I don't want to see other people pick their noses. I don't want other people to see me pick my nose if I'm not thinking about it. I hate having another person in my peripheral.

In both cubes and open work spaces, I wear headphones for most of the day. Sometimes the music is paused but I keep them on anyway. Music is really the only thing that keeps me sane in IT jobs.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by rhizome on Monday August 21, 2017 @05:00PM (#15067823)
Agreed on all points. One thing that cubes protect against is visual distractions. In an open plan, even when I'm able to focus on my work, I'll always be catching something out of the corner of my eye.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sqldba on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:11AM (#15061864)
It depends on the cubicle. Having a partial back wall, and being able to personalise it, are all better than open plans.

The taller the walls the more it's like a mini office.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by gardnr on Monday August 21, 2017 @01:09AM (#15062088)
I need a wall in front of me. It's really distracting to have things move in my peripheral vision while trying to focus on a screen. I just built a wall out of monitors and cabinets to block out the front of my desk and wear noise cancelling headphones.

I still get way more work done at home.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by milesvp on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:46PM (#15061572)
God yes, I need partitions high enough not to be able to see people's faces, otherwise I'd be so distracted I may as well stay home.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by cortesoft on Monday August 21, 2017 @02:00AM (#15062281)
Which part about it do you dislike? I have a feeling it is some association you have with cubicles, and not the cubicles themselves.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by LaGrange on Monday August 21, 2017 @08:08AM (#15063932)
There are cubicles and, uh, tiny beige hellcubes.

I like cubicles because, frankly, my only experience actually working in them was when I was delegated to work for Genentech for a bit (I don't usually work in the US). The cubicles they had were large enough to have a second seat and a whiteboard — you could hold a face-to-face meeting with them, no problem. Oh, and they were designed in such a way that you had to get into one to look at someone's screen. As a bonus, mine actually had a window (I guess guest privilege?), but even the inner ones were fairly roomy.

On the other hand, I've seen places where I (I'm 6"2') just wouldn't fit so I'd have permanent leg pain. Oh, and the screens are easily visible to passers by. Just the pain itself would be enough to hate those.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by abovemind on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:37PM (#15061746)
I long for the days when I had a cubicle. I'd rather work at home now than suffer the uneasiness of lacking a private workspace.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by flukus on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:52PM (#15061378)
Why is that? A cubicle is essentially an office without a door.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by hota_mazi on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:41AM (#15061980)
So you prefer open floor plans to cubicles?
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by jlarocco on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:31PM (#15061723)
Having used both, I would choose a cubicle over an open office any day. An office would be best, though.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by jnwatson on Monday August 21, 2017 @10:59AM (#15065064)
Private office > shared office > nice cubicles > cheap cubicles >> bullpen
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by pbreit on Monday August 21, 2017 @02:21AM (#15062350)
I prefer them much more than open offices.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by beamatronic on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:23AM (#15061907)
After 2 years in an open floor plan ( nothing but simple long tables ) I have come to deeply appreciate my cubicle