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Re:Is the open office layout dead? by thesmallestcat on Sunday August 20, 2017 @07:44PM (#15060865)
Don't give them any ideas, or things will go the other way: Want an external monitor? That'll be $50/month. Access to the supply closet is $10/month.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by RandomOpinion on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:19PM (#15061267)
I've happily brought equipment purchased at my own expense to work. It amortizes down to very little over the lifetime of the hardware (even a $1600 workstation laptop amounts to roughly $0.25 per hour over 3 years at 40 hours a week) and makes work so much more efficient (always a plus at performance review time) and just plain more pleasant.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by drdeadringer on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:41PM (#15061341)
> I've happily brought equipment purchased at my own expense to work.

How do you make sure that everyone understand that that equipment belongs to you and not The Company? I'm currently resorting to printed labels of my name or initials, but I can't help but consider that that's a tissue defence.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by RandomOpinion on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:00PM (#15061618)
> How do you make sure that everyone understand that that equipment belongs to you and not The Company?

For BYOD laptops/PCs, keep the receipt (which will usually include the serial number) and store a photocopy at the office in a place where you can easily keep track of it. If it's something shipped direct from the manufacturer, keep the box with the shipping label on it as additional evidence. You can also let your manager know that you have equipment that you personally own on-premises and give him an itemized list with serial numbers. For small items like mice, keyboards, etc., they're generally not worth enough to lose sleep over if lost.

Beyond that, the general rule of never bringing anything to work you're not willing to lose applies. Just like any other kind of BYOD device, your employer is not going to reimburse you if your personal hardware is stolen or accidentally damaged, so take appropriate precautions.

Lastly, make sure that you secure _and_ backup data on your hardware at least as well as your IT team does for company issued hardware. Your manager is not going to be at all sympathetic if you lose work due to a hardware failure on your BYOD device or due to malware.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sumanthvepa on Monday August 21, 2017 @01:22AM (#15062135)
In the companies I've worked in, they did not permit personal computers in the office (they were okay with mice/monitors etc.) The logic was that it posed too great a security risk. In one instance for a high profile project I wasn't allowed to even enter the office area with my phone (to prevent people from taking screenshots)
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by djsumdog on Monday August 21, 2017 @01:25AM (#15062143)
I've always brought my own headphones or mechanical keyboards and they're pretty obviously not-company. I've never purchased any actual machines though. If I need equipment, I get the shop or contracting/staffing company to buy it. No reason to spend money on that stuff. We're not auto mechanics.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by bcoates on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:02PM (#15061417)
The Company should be putting a property tag on everything that is theirs, or at least recording serial numbers.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by Spooky23 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:04PM (#15061631)
It should be catalogued in the company asset database as an employee asset.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by j_s on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:33PM (#15061734)
For me it's been less hassle to 'Bring Your Own RAM'.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by h3h4 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:03PM (#15060968)
They won't hesitate doing that, after all whole open workspace movement is a cost cutting method on the pretext of increasing collaboration.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by strictnein on Sunday August 20, 2017 @07:45PM (#15060873)
I've brought my own monitor into work before. Was about to do it with my current role until they finally got me a decent one.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by reificator on Sunday August 20, 2017 @07:53PM (#15060921)
I bring my own keyboard and mouse.

I've considered monitors as well but those provided work well enough for my needs right now.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by seanmcdirmid on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:06PM (#15060984)
I've been using my own mechanical keyboards forever. You make a lot of friends with a model M in an open office (suffice it to say, use quieter switches now).
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sundvor on Sunday August 20, 2017 @07:50PM (#15060899)
I have my own personal U3415W for my Visual Studio programming. I have brought it up in interviews, if any issues to my bringing it in.

(At home I have the Acer X34 Predator. The Dell came first; when I realised how good it was for programming I knew I needed one at work.)

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by strictnein on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:00PM (#15060959)
The U3415W is the monitor I finally got at work. It's a nice monitor.

At home I have a Benq bl3201pt, which is a 4k 16:9 monitor. It's nice as well, but does have a flickering issue (one side of the screen will flash every 4-8 hours or even 1-2 days).

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by jaggederest on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:09PM (#15061003)
I use an X34 at home, aside from quality issues (needed a warantee repair after 6 weeks, nontrivial shipping and hassle), it's a fantastic monitor for every task.

I've never understood the tendency towards multiple monitors over one larger monitor.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by lordCarbonFiber on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:38PM (#15061098)
I find multiple monitors easier to manage with a tiling window manager and offer a better "separation of concerns" in terms of grouping of active applications I want to see. But my home set up includes 3 28in displays so I may just have a problem, ymmv.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sundvor on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:15PM (#15061254)
Nice. Mine could only do 95hz after a while on 100, started flickering; other than that no issue.

I surround my home X34 with two U2412Ms on an Ergotech stand.

It's a pretty neat setup.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by michaelmrose on Monday August 21, 2017 @01:01AM (#15062058)
Its easier to independently change the workspace running on a secondary monitor than it is to rearrange individual applications.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by bsder on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:58PM (#15061612)
Why a 1440 vertical pixel monitor?

Real 4K monitors are effectively the same price and have a lot more pixels. And you can get them in 27", 32" and 34" sizes.

Sure, I understand why the manufacturers want these odd kinds of resolutions so that they can take defective panels and carve them up differently.

However, why would the users want these instead of more resolution? What am I missing?

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by wtallis on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:19PM (#15061683)
1440 vertical pixels in a 34" 21:9 monitor means you usually don't have to worry about whether your software can adapt to a non-standard DPI. At about 109 DPI, it's the same as a typical 27" 16:9 panel, just with more pixels off to the side. The density is a bit higher than the typical ~94 DPI of a 24" 16:10 display, but the difference can be tolerated by most users. Jumping up to 140 DPI (32" 4k 16:9) is enough that you either need exceptionally good vision, or you need to compensate through software scaling adjustments or major ergonomic changes.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by jamie_ca on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:37AM (#15061955)
27" iMac has been 2560×1440 from 2009 until they went retina in 2014 (and they're now double in both dimensions, so same logical resolution).

At arm's length, on a 27" screen, 1440p is very practical. Getting more screen space than 1080p is what bumped me from 21-24" screens, and it fills my vision enough that if I jumped to 4k I'd either be moving my head back and forth with a 40" screen, dealing with even smaller UI elements, or wrestling with OS scaling.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by cm2187 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @07:59PM (#15060950)
How about a 42inch 4K monitor (Philips BDM4350UC). In term of screen real estate it is fantastic.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by seanmcdirmid on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:03PM (#15060967)
In terms of PPI, not so great.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by cm2187 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:15PM (#15061026)
For development I take screen real estate over PPI. The idea is to run it at native resolution while being very readable, and to be able to work on multiple documents side by side.

(And for coding you actually need height more than width, if you think of a typical layout of a code file)

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by seanmcdirmid on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:49PM (#15061132)
To each their own. I love the fact that I can't see pixels on my retina iMac at 220 PPI. It makes reading code much nicer.

I still have more than enough room for a few buffers on screen.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sundvor on Sunday August 20, 2017 @09:26PM (#15061288)
I agree with you. I'd love to try a 4k screen, and was even considering it - however in the end I took my home U3415W to work and bought the X34 for home (I might game 30 minutes a week or something; the extra hz are certainly nice for that, otherwise they are pretty much identical).

I value actual real estate over PPI, preferring to run at 100% / unscaled which looks much nicer in Win10. The 109PPI (3440x1440) is decent enough, and I don't have to squint. Furthermore the DPI matches those of the surrounding 16:10 24s (1920x1200) well enough for it not to be an issue.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by mcny on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:01PM (#15061410)
I am trying not to cargo cult here but I think if I need to scroll a file with 9 font on a 32"+ screen with 4k display it might be a sign of code smell (again, this should definitely not be a hard rule just saying it might be nice to stop and think why it is so long)?
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by sundvor on Monday August 21, 2017 @05:13AM (#15063085)
Not arguing against that, however Visual Studio has lots of windows eg NCrunch runner, output, solution overview in addition to editor(s).

The ultrawide allows for this nicely; tests on the left, two actual editors, solution explorer on right, and output at the bottom under the editors.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by strictnein on Sunday August 20, 2017 @11:19PM (#15061687)
Do you mean 9pt or 9px font? Either way, that's not comfortably readable on a 32" 4k screen.

On a 34" 3440x1440 screen I keep IntelliJ at 14px (10.5pt). On a 32" 4k screen I keep it at 15px-16px (~11pt).

You're still only talking ~100 lines of code on the screen at any one time. Maybe ~130 with a smaller font.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by barrkel on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:04PM (#15060977)
It doesn't appear to be curved or ultra wide screen.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by cm2187 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:16PM (#15061028)
It's not curve but you can see it as an ultra wide screen which is also very high.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by cm2187 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @07:52PM (#15060912)
I would be happy to pay out of my own pocket for a better hardware than the POS I am forced to work with. All the machines are connected with 100Mbit, and we only just switched from Windows XP...
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by CamelCaseName on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:01PM (#15060960)
Is it like that for security purposes or are you working with legacy software?

Apart from those two issues, the loss of productivity should so obviously outweigh any possible savings. There must be some explanation.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by cm2187 on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:12PM (#15061016)
Well, it's a large company with lots of in-house software, so that's the official reason for the delayed roll out of Windows 7. But I think it has more to do with bureaucracy and inefficiency.

For not bringing my own hardware, security (it's a bank).

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by drunkenmonkey on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:15AM (#15063648)
> XP

> delayed roll out of Windows 7

Is your bank located in Kazakhstan?

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by cm2187 on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @08:46AM (#15071801)
No but I am sure we source our hardware from flea markets in Kazakhstan!
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by rhinoceraptor on Sunday August 20, 2017 @10:42PM (#15061562)
I wouldn’t be surprised if POS stands for Point Of Sale, but I’m guessing that’s not the case.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by maxaf on Sunday August 20, 2017 @07:45PM (#15060870)
I'm afraid it's too late.