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Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by rb808 on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @06:05PM (#14860802)
> Office 365 provides great value also.

I think the cheapest version is $70 a year. I'm still using office 2007 which cost about the same but has lasted 10 years. I dont think this software rental trend is anything about great value.

Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by int_19h on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @11:38PM (#14862519)
That $70 is effectively a bundle with OneDrive, getting you 1 Tb of cloud storage. If you only need Office, and upgrade rarely, it doesn't make much sense. But seeing how many people pay similar money for Dropbox alone, for example, it can definitely be a great value proposition.
Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by tinus_hn on Thursday July 27, 2017 @07:59PM (#14870874)
I don't know about the personal OneDrive offering but on OneDrive for Business it's pretty much impossible to fill 1TB because the client will crash and burn far before reaching the limit.
Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by skinnymuch on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:00AM (#14874717)
I think OneDrive for Business is like the Skype Business (not sure the name) issue. Where they just renamed it. The exe was still Lynx.exe for some time.

I have had over 500GB syncing on OneDrive before via an office 365 account. It was fine. It would crash or mess up a lot more in early 2016 and 2015. But has been pretty good in the past year.

OneDrive still has issues though.

It doesn't understand symlinks and it doesn't allow far too many special characters in file names.

Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by int_19h on Saturday July 29, 2017 @07:14AM (#14880621)
OneDrive for Business used to have something to do with SharePoint (as in, that's where it would sync those files). That would probably account for a lot of problems with it. ;)
Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by skinnymuch on Sunday July 30, 2017 @06:10PM (#14888119)
Yeah most likely. I use Onedrive a ton (200+ GB), so the normal one still has a few issues that are annoying - primarily some special characters not being allowed, no symlinking, and I don't think it does file history well compared to Drive or Dropbox.
Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by pletnes on Thursday July 27, 2017 @12:31PM (#14866865)
Dropbox + Libreoffice is similar, yes. Also dropbox is way faster, runs on linux, and easy to script against. Oh, and onedrive consistently crashes on my win 10. But yeah, feature-list-wise, onedrive isn't bad if you're a MS fanboy.
Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by skinnymuch on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:02AM (#14874745)
That's weird that OneDrive crashes consistently on your W10. How much data do you have on it? It doesn't crash on our family computer which is always an old computer. And on Mac it crashes maybe once a quarter. I have hundreds of gigs on it so that's not so bad.

MS fanboy remark seems weird. I'm guessing you'll just think I'm an MS fanboy. Which would be silly, I use Apple products far more among other companies. OneDrive might actually be the only Microsoft app I use consistently.

Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by pletnes on Friday July 28, 2017 @01:36PM (#14876013)
Just a few gig in a directory at work. Gave up syncing it after spending several days alternating between crashing, eating 100% CPU, and popping up error messages. Yes 1 TB is nice but you can't get to it!
Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by skinnymuch on Friday July 28, 2017 @08:53PM (#14878824)
Damn. This is OneDrive personal, not Business? You said work so if it's OneDrive for business that isn't really OneDrive. It's just their enterprise stuff with OneDrive as the name. Like Skype business or whatever they call that.

Normal OneDrive which is what comes with the $80/year/5 people Office 365 isn't perfect. A few issues/features that they should have finished by now, but I'd be really surprised if regular OneDrive was causing those amt of issues.

Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by NDizzle on Thursday July 27, 2017 @12:07AM (#14862629)
The standard edition which lists for $99/yr is ~$80/yr on Amazon and on sale elsewhere. That version is Office Home. Good for 5 people (like my family of 5) - Word / Excel / Powerpoint / Outlook / OneNote / Publisher / Access.

5 TB of OneDrive storage too.

Look. No referral or anything - https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Office-1-year-subscription-...

Great deal.

Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by skinnymuch on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:03AM (#14874752)
Yeah i was surprised with this not being mentioned in the higher up comment lamenting $70/yr. $80/yr for 5 people has been great for us.
Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by princeb on Thursday July 27, 2017 @02:04AM (#14862989)
the family feature is absolutely killer.

equivalent office 2007 for 5 family members is like $750? That's 10 years of 365, with no feature update (if you like that sort of thing) and no onedrive.

Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by caseysoftware on Wednesday July 26, 2017 @06:28PM (#14860967)
I think it's different based on the use case.

For a document editor or spreadsheet, continuous or even regular updates aren't important as long as it has the base features you need.

When you have a CRM that integrates with other systems, an accounting package that has to stay up to date with policies and laws, or even an IDE that can support numerous languages, regular updates are more valuable and in some cases necessary.

I used Office 2000 until I decommissioned my last Windows machine (dual boot even then) in 2010/11.

Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by hedora on Thursday July 27, 2017 @11:39AM (#14866274)
For me, Office and Windows upgrades are just a useless time waster. I'd be happy with Office 2000 if it weren't for the fact that the only thing I use it for is collaboration.

As a solution, I just set up a copy of Server 2016 Essentials, set the telemetry mode to "security" (which is easier said than done -- you have to go through an active directory server!) and installed Office 2016 Home + Student on it.

The lowest price for that Office SKU is $75 on Amazon at the moment, but normal retail is about twice that. It looks like they support current office releases for about 4 years, so I figure $40/year if I stay on the upgrade train and pay full price.

Server 2016 security updates end in 2026, and it retails for $400, so another $40/yr.

This all goes in a VM running on a low wattage (already always on) box, so it will hopefully update + reboot itself when I'm not around. Time will tell.

Electricity for my physical desktops running windows was $10's per month (windows refused to stay suspended...), and my incremental hardware costs are $0, so this is a lot less expensive than it looks.

Plus, this gets rid of the vast majority of the Win 10 spyware in a supported way, and future proofs against most hardware compatibility problems.

Re:Microsoft’s Monopoly Hangover by skinnymuch on Friday July 28, 2017 @11:05AM (#14874760)
For $80 a year like our family has had for years, your get Office Home and OneDrive 1 TB per person for 5 people. It's a great deal.

Is there any app that you use that wouldn't be covered by Office 365 Home edition?