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Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by AndrewDucker on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:23AM (#14568645)
https://twitter.com/dkberman/status/875701677504024576

"Amazon did not just buy Whole Foods grocery stores. It bought 431 upper-income, prime-location distribution nodes for everything it does."

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by steego on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:54AM (#14569530)
Meh.

This deal is about expansion, not about tapping into 431 measly location. Amazon knows they can set up satellite warehouses a lot faster and cheaper than they can create a store.

Let's be clear. Whole Foods is not a commodity food supplier. They enjoy high margins because they have cultivated quality and consciousness into their products. They did to food what Apple did to computers. They added the right mix of intangibles with a sense of mission and purpose that people can many buy into. Add on top of that, and Whole Foods adds an expertise procuring a catalog of high-end suppliers for both packages and fresh foods and the safe handling of those foods.

This deal should significantly improve Amazon's food delivery offerings. As a food snob and target demographic, I can say this will significantly improve my chances of using Amazon's food delivery service. I've used it in the past, but wasn't satisfied because I was disappointed with the quality and selection. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't great.

I suspect most people will not be willing to buy the high-end products, but that's not the point. The point is the high-end/high-margin products will be available so shoppers won't have to go out and do supplementary shopping to get the "good stuff". If online grocery shopping is going to become viable, they need to make sure they reduce the need for supplementary shopping as much as possible. Having a leg and data from a real grocery store will help them figure out what they need to do to improve.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by aiyodev on Friday June 16, 2017 @08:19PM (#14573535)
> Having a leg and data from a real grocery store will help them figure out what they need to do to improve.

This. I've worked for Whole Foods and my wife currently does. They find small, local companies that make natural products. They work with them to market their products and test them in their stores. They collect a lot of data on how customers respond to the products, improve them, and then distribute them nationally.

The reason Whole Foods has been suffering is because they're not big enough. Once these companies have a valuable product, they want to sell them at Walmart, Kroger, HEB, etc.

But Amazon is big enough that they could make deals with these companies. I believe Amazon wants Whole Foods so that it can generate new, popular, high-margin food products that can only be bought in a Whole Foods store or on Amazon.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by BurningFrog on Friday June 16, 2017 @02:49PM (#14571673)
I think the stores could become a modern version of the Post Office, where you can pick up and/or return your Amazon packages.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by TranquilMarmot on Friday June 16, 2017 @03:26PM (#14571942)
They already have this with Amazon Lockers. I get a majority of my packages shipped to the locker that's in the grocery store next door.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by BurningFrog on Friday June 16, 2017 @03:35PM (#14572002)
Exactly. At minimum this is a lot of new locker locations.

But you can have so much more than lockers when you own the place.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by styfle on Friday June 16, 2017 @06:41PM (#14573129)
Or to use the Apple analogy, Whole Foods is basically the Apple Store. Maybe they'll just call it the Amazon tore?
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by petra on Friday June 16, 2017 @02:34PM (#14571552)
That surely makes a lot of sense. But in theory at least, Amazon's fulfillment platform is supposed to be the solution for retailing the "long tail", and it had worked very well in regular e-commerce.

So why did it fail with food ?

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by steego on Friday June 16, 2017 @04:55PM (#14572572)
I can't emphasize enough how food is a fundamentally different business in so many ways. First, to say the product is evaluated and experienced in a much more visceral way than most other industries is a huge understatement.

Our bodies, like most other animals, dedicate so many resources and features to the quality detection and digestion of food and our second largest concentration of nerve cells exists in our gut. Eons before we could comparison shop, we and our evolutionary ancestors were foraging, testing and evaluating what we can eat. How we evaluate this product is based on an innate system that been shaped over countless years.

When you eat something bad, that nervous system goes out of its way to tell your brain not to eat that thing again. You may try to ignore it, but the brain has some pretty coercive methods to make sure you never forget what made you sick. For me, it turned me off goat cheese for about 5 years, even though I knew I had come down with a stomach bug. It didn't matter. My brain didn't give a shit. All it knows is I felt like shit after I ate goat cheese, so it's going to tell me to stay away from fucking goat cheese. (Fortunately, I can now enjoy it again.)

Needless to say, food borne illness is a huge concern with the industry because a handful of incidents (Think Chipotle) can have a devastating effect. Want to prevent it? You have two options:

The first option, you can go the preservation route with additives and refrigeration. This is what we did in the 20th century. We basically created conditions to make it hard for bacteria and pathogens to eat our food before we ate it. Either this meant you kept it cold, or you made it inedible. For example, one reason bleached white bread lasts longer than old fashioned sour dough recipes is because you've effectively stripped all the nutrients out of it. Old fashioned bread is nutrient rich. You can live off it. The bleached bread was so nutrient poor that people started suffering from malnutrition diseases like rickets until some clever person realized you can fortify bread with flower.

Needless to say, most preservation systems take away something. It could be nutrients, texture, flavor, or a host of other things.

The second option is to source fresh ingredients, handle it well, and eat it as soon as you can. This is what Chipotle tried to do and what virtually no other fast food joint tries to do because it requires organizational and operational disciple. The stakes are high and people have long memories when it comes to making people sick. Even as adults, once you've associated doody with someone or something, that stuff sticks in your head. I'm pretty sure when people started inventing verbal language, one of the first words that was uttered was something equivalent to the word "yucky".

Now that we've got that illness and yuckiness are a huge part of this industry, you have to remember that food is also an artistic expression and part of people's sense of identity, way more than most things you might buy on Amazon. We have holidays that celebrate food bounties. We use it to commune with friends and family. Explorers set out expeditions and discovered entire fucking continents because they wanted better access to spices to make their food taste better.

Food is trendy, the customers are fickle and easy to scare and they have long memories. As a company, you can't just stumble into that industry and make it work robots and good operations procedures. It takes inside knowledge and expertise that is cultivated by an organization. This is why it was important for Amazon to buy a company that worked hard to try to figure out how to procure and provide fresh, health conscious, and sustainable foods. They're buying Whole Food's reputation and expertise because they know reputation and expertise is everything in the food business.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by dsmithatx on Friday June 16, 2017 @05:58PM (#14572944)
They are about as different as running an online book store is to running one of the largest clouds on earth.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by steego on Friday June 16, 2017 @08:59PM (#14573692)
I don't care to argue whether this is true or not, but I will highlight that the cloud business was nascent enough that Amazon had the opportunity to define it and they were able to bootstrap quickly because running a large data center was already part of their core competency.

Granted, building a global scale infrastructure was an amazing accomplishment, but you have to concede it's easier when you're starting with a team who already knows something about the business.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by maxerickson on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:31AM (#14568718)
I don't think that is right, Whole Foods stores are already full of...food. They don't have room for hundreds of additional products, never mind tens of thousands.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by ccorda on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:44AM (#14568861)
Place an order by noon for groceries plus anything you want from Amazon. Amazon fills up truck(s) at whatehouse and drops off at local Whole Foods. Stop by on your way home from work and they bring your items to your car.

You get free same day delivery. Amazon just greatly saved on last mile delivery costs.

That's the value of those nodes without having to store all the inventory.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by tedmiston on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:50AM (#14569490)
> You get free same day delivery. Amazon just greatly saved on last mile delivery costs.

I'm under the impression this is something they're really trying to optimize right now. Not sure if it's everywhere but where I live in Cincinnati, Amazon is now operating their own courier service for normal Prime deliveries piggybacking on top of Prime Now drivers.

When you place an order (on regular Amazon.com) you don't necessarily know whether it will come from UPS, FedEx, an Amazon courier, etc. The Amazon couriers don't seem to know that it's not a Prime Now order and that the delivery time isn't known in advance to the customer like it is with Prime Now, as they show up midday and call you (from an unknown number) anticipating you'd be at home and asking you to let them in the gate.

One unexpected problem that emerges here is that the standard delivery service courier for a route is regular and that one person can be given a gate key; much harder to solve that with dozens or hundreds of couriers.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by dceddia on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:01PM (#14570613)
I'm seeing this where I live too, near Boston. Many of my Amazon deliveries have been coming in white Amazon vans for a little while now. I still get things from UPS occasionally but it's increasingly those white Amazon vans.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by tedmiston on Friday June 16, 2017 @02:21PM (#14571446)
I haven't seen official Amazon vans -- they're using normal people's cars here.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by ghaff on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:54AM (#14568963)
Hannafords has a place an order and pick it up model. Anecdotally, based on my local store, hardly anyone uses it. I suspect it's a narrow niche where people are happy to order on their computer but want to save a few $$ on delivery.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by ccorda on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:02AM (#14569033)
Amazon has it on trial already: https://www.amazon.com/afx/nc/aboutpickup

Not for me either, but not everyone wants or can have groceries and/or packages sitting on their porch all day.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by ghaff on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:27AM (#14569283)
Fair enough. Being able to swing by a store and pickup a pre picked order at a specific time probably has value for some. So likely does not having to drag kids around a store.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by SmellTheGlove on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:58AM (#14569556)
Mainers checking in?

I haven't used it yet, but I just went to their website. I picked the store that I pass on my way home from work. Next available pickup is tomorrow at noon. They gotta go same day if they want people to use it. That or it's popular at this particular store, who knows.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by ghaff on Friday June 16, 2017 @11:07AM (#14569634)
They're pretty common in Massachusetts as well. Agreed. Need to be able to place order at lunchtime and pick up on the way home.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by SmellTheGlove on Friday June 16, 2017 @11:33AM (#14569856)
Just wait for Market Basket to do it. Everyone will follow.

We got a Market Basket in Maine I think 2 years ago - in Biddeford. No joke, you'd think it were Six Flags with the traffic it gets on the weekends.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by ghaff on Friday June 16, 2017 @11:39AM (#14569903)
I mostly like Market Basket. Prices are good and around me they upgraded a couple stores that were smaller and the worse for wear. They carry things other stores don't. On the other hand bread and fish particularly tend to be weak.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by dceddia on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:00PM (#14570596)
We got a few Wegmans in Massachusetts, same thing. It's crazy on weekends.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by odonnellryan on Friday June 16, 2017 @02:42PM (#14571624)
Personally, I've tried many:

- Local supermarket (pickup and delivery)

- Amazon Fresh

- Services like BlueApron

BlueApron is a WAY better value, IMO. This is where I see the future being. It's fun, healthy (very), promotes sustainability, is fairly cost-effective (once you consider they deliver it as part of the cost) and is worry-free.

Shopping on Amazon still means I have to shop. Might as well take 5-10 minutes and go to the store :)

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by cardiffspaceman on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:08PM (#14570688)
These Amazon warehouses would be full of commingled, melamine-based fake food[1] that no one wants.

I personally also strongly dislike going to the Whole Foods stores in my area.

[1] Plausible scenario based on dozens of comments on HN

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by rainbowmverse on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:55AM (#14568971)
I'm closer to Whole Foods' nearest distribution center than an actual Whole Foods. The nearest Whole Foods is almost 40 miles away.

If this works out for Amazon, I wouldn't be surprised to see Walmart try and buy Trader Joe's. They own Aldi, which has made a big push to compete with Walmart's reach outside cities. The nearest Aldi is closer than Walmart, and that's already not far away.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by lorenzhs on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:04AM (#14569051)
You've got your Aldis mixed up. Aldi Nord owns Trader Joe's (not the other way around). Aldi stores in the US are Aldi Süd. The two are separate companies, Aldi Nord serves the North of Germany and Aldi Süd the South. Their international expansions are separate as well. Here's a handy map (Aldi Nord in blue): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Aldi_wor...

The line dividing Germany into Aldi Nord and Aldi Süd territory — https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Aldi_equ... — is called the "Aldi equator". We sometimes jokingly call it Germany's most important dividing line post-reunification :)

tl;dr Aldi and Trader Joe's are (theoretically) in competition, and neither owns the other. The other Aldi owns Trader Joe's.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by colanderman on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:27AM (#14569279)
Trader Joe's is owned by Aldi Nord; Aldi US is owned by Aldi Süd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldi#Geographic_distribution
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by maxerickson on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:06AM (#14569063)
Walmart has ~4500 (US) stores already. Aldi is expanding rapidly but has far fewer than that.

The two Aldi locations I drive past are both located less than a mile from the nearest Walmart locations (I expect they do a fair amount of piggybacking).

The purchase doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me. I guess the most sensible thing is that they see the stores being located by the best populations to start out doing food deliveries for (affluent, so they can charge higher prices while they figure out how to do it).

Walmart has a pickup service. They keep experimenting with rapid delivery but people don't really want to pay much for it.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by bigjimmyk3 on Friday June 16, 2017 @11:03AM (#14569600)
After a few initial hiccups, my wife is sold on Walmart's grocery pickup service. For short-range delivery, they are also experimenting with "terrestrial drones"[1] which I have seen around town once or twice.

1. http://www.chainstoreage.com/article/different-kind-drone-ro...

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by ghaff on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:25AM (#14569253)
The premium of rapid delivery was a sticking point going back to the dot bomb era. A lot of people want rapid delivery (though admittedly only a subset want to order groceries online). But it's a premium service and a whole lot fewer want to pay for it.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by Spooky23 on Friday June 16, 2017 @05:44PM (#14572866)
Both Aldi and Trader Joe's are private and can avoid these entanglements.

This deal was more about corporate politics and shareholder drama than anything else.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by evook on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:18AM (#14569187)
It's the other way around. Aldi owns Trader Joe's.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by zebrafish on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:41AM (#14568824)
The products Amazon is trying to distribute with this deal are.... food products.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by Spooky23 on Friday June 16, 2017 @05:45PM (#14572871)
Amazon could get rid of the big bullshit medicine section that Whole Foods has and replace it with useful products.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by upvotinglurker on Monday June 19, 2017 @12:00PM (#14587921)
The bullshit medicine must be lucrative, though, or the section wouldn't be so big. (Not saying the medicine isn't bullshit, just that people apparently like to buy it anyway.)
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by maxerickson on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:50AM (#14568919)
I feel like you are ignoring the context I replied to, where the person quoted a tweet saying Amazon would use the stores for everything they do.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by emodendroket on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:33AM (#14568739)
Yeah, and I can't imagine the kind of places Whole Foods is located making any kind of sense as a warehouse.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by dkrich on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:43AM (#14569432)
This was exactly my thought. In fact, why would a retailer like Amazon want to have upper-income distribution facilities? The cost of storage would be exceedingly high. And if that's the winning strategy, isn't Costco already pretty well positioned in that space?
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by Symbiote on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:00AM (#14569010)
Tesco use their supermarkets in the UK for collection of items ordered from their website, like home electronics.

I never used it, but I'm not really in Tesco's target market for non-food stuff.

https://www.tesco.com/direct/click-and-collect/

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by RobAley on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:16AM (#14569166)
I've used it a couple of times (for School uniform for my kids, cheaper than Amazon), however Amazon have their pickup lockers closer to where I live, and with no (slow) human interaction (as at Tesco), it's normally a winner for me.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by Spooky23 on Friday June 16, 2017 @05:41PM (#14572846)
Amazon Fresh cannot keep stuff in stock. Whole Foods can. Even if they have people running around with shopping carts in the store, you'd probably achieve a better result than what Fresh is doing today in many areas.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by rmc on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:49AM (#14569484)
It's all part of their incredible journey!
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by JumpCrisscross on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:48AM (#14568900)
They also just bought a liquor license in like every U.S. state and high-income city.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by nonameface on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:06AM (#14569066)
There is no Whole Foods in West Virginia. I know you were generalizing but thought I would mention a counter-case.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by somecontext on Saturday June 17, 2017 @01:52PM (#14576886)
My research suggests that 42 states contain at least one Whole Foods. The eight states excluded are (west to east) Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia, Delaware, and Vermont. These are exactly the seven states with population less than one million in the last US Census ... and West Virginia. (Note, however, that the District of Columbia -- also with a population under one million -- has four stores.)

Although it's a strange thing to measure, approximately 7.5 million people (~2.3% of the US) live in a state without a Whole Foods.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by nunez on Sunday June 18, 2017 @02:08AM (#14579233)
delaware totally has a whole foods; there is one near wilmington iirc
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by somecontext on Monday June 19, 2017 @02:58PM (#14589433)
You're welcome to look at https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/list yourself. The store you're remembering might be at 475 Wilmington West Chester Pike in Glen Mills, PA, which is plenty close to Wilmington (as the street name suggests) but is in fact ~2 miles outside of Delaware.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by jhatax on Friday June 16, 2017 @11:54AM (#14570031)
This. I have started using Prime Now a lot over the last few months because the prices for non-perishable groceries are cheaper than Target/Safeway consistently. The gap has been fresh food, and to fill this gap, Prime Now partners with local stores (Sprouts in Oakland, for example).

The acquisition makes WF an instant partner of Prime Now (unintended pun). The demographic that uses the app and wants groceries now has a reliable and recognized source for said needs. This will only increase the use of Prime Now, thereby making Prime a more entrenched and indispensable service for a certain demographic. Better yet, the benefits will be symbiotic: WF can benefit from Amazon's advanced logistics capabilities. These efficiencies might help the brand shake off its reputation for super high prices.

Strategically, this is a slam dunk for Amazon and certain segments of its customers.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by adventured on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:40AM (#14568820)
No they didn't.

They just bought a higher income grocery business, which they were aggressively seeking to dive deeper into. They'll use the locations for pick-up & delivery points plausibly and they'll bind it to Prime in various ways. They'll probably also leverage Whole Foods into smaller, smart / automated stores, micro whole foods stores in the image they've been experimenting with for self-shopping.

It would have cost them billions to build out the grocery distribution points they were planning to do anyway. They'll save a lot on that cost, and meanwhile the Whole Foods business is generating $500m per year in net income consistently, over ten years it'll plausibly nicely chop into that purchase price and or fund Amazon's experiments.

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by Eric_WVGG on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:42AM (#14568845)
I'm not saying that renting is worthless, but it's worth noting that Whole Foods rents their property. Amazon is buying a network, not earth and bricks.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by openmosix on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:36AM (#14569373)
Is it safe to assume Instacart will soon lose one of its strategic partners?
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by busterarm on Friday June 16, 2017 @11:43AM (#14569943)
Yeah I'm pretty sure they're f*ed.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by clairity on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:29PM (#14570915)
this is a shot across the bow of instacart and even uber and walmart. amazon wants to own all consumer data so it can know what you want to buy before you do. it's a strategy that's hard to bootstrap, but they're already been at it for 20 years. whole foods fills a retail direct distribution hole in their product line that their own automated grocery stores are just not ready to do.

this is they type of acquisition that seems a little puzzling at first, but makes sense in the context of their overall strategy (unlike most acquisitions, which just remain puzzling since they're usually ego/prestige plays).

Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by virtuabhi on Friday June 16, 2017 @04:47PM (#14572527)
In addition to using Whole Foods stores as a locker location, Amazon can also ask Whole Foods employees to deliver packages on their their way home from work. Like Walmart - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2017/06/01/w...
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by ckastner on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:34AM (#14568750)
$13.7B / 431 = $31.79m per store. I have zero experience with real estate prices for retail outlets, but it feels as if that's a bit on the high end?
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by blantonl on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:41AM (#14568831)

  * distribution network
  * store stock
  * employees
  * high end real estate
Sounds like a great deal for Amazon
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by InitialLastName on Friday June 16, 2017 @12:01PM (#14570100)

    * High-end food brand to sell from
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by clarkmoody on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:04PM (#14570644)

  * Customer goodwill
  * Company brand
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by needlessly on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:48AM (#14568895)
you can't really buy employees. They can choose to quit right after.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by dx034 on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:55AM (#14568972)
And they don't own the real estate so that point isn't valid either. Not sure about trucking but would be surprised if they own their whole distribution network.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by dceddia on Friday June 16, 2017 @01:02PM (#14570624)
But they do (in some cases anyway) own the liquor licenses.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by dgudkov on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:42AM (#14568849)
It's not just per store, it should also include all the logistics infrastructure -- warehouses, truck fleet, etc.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by mbell on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:21AM (#14569222)
Last I knew (a few years ago) whole foods outsourced most of their logistics. They do have distribution centers but don't own the trucks nor related tech. In general this is a good thing, you don't want to run/own trucks unless you really have to, it's a very thin margin game that is easy to lose your shirt playing.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by webXL on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:25AM (#14569264)
That's an interesting way to view it. Apple's incredible revenue/profit per sq.ft. statistic comes to mind. This isn't a real estate investment. They're buying capital to increase profits. But it's Amazon, so don't hold your breath.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by artursapek on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:50AM (#14568916)
There's a lot more than real estate involved in this deal.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by kgwgk on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:41AM (#14568823)
They only own 18 of those stores, anyway.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by cma on Friday June 16, 2017 @09:54AM (#14568964)
Are they all even owned or are some leased?
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by erikb on Friday June 16, 2017 @11:22AM (#14569770)
Which is really nice if you want to roll out your own grocery store chain.
Re:Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7B by raldi on Friday June 16, 2017 @10:21AM (#14569215)
It's like bootstrapping a fleet of Apple Stores all at once.