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Re:Chrome Won by fiatjaf on Thursday May 25, 2017 @08:15PM (#14421116)
The mobile thing is just mass distraction. Everybody says "mobile" is eating the world, but when you look at it, 99 in 100 mobile core users are stupid facebookers who don't even know what is the internet and wouldn't be using the internet at all if it wasn't for Facebook, Instagram or whatever share-your-stupid-life network they may be using.
Re:Chrome Won by aerovistae on Thursday May 25, 2017 @08:18PM (#14421135)
I have secretly held this opinion for years. 4 out of 5 times that I look over someone's shoulder at their phone on the train, they're rapidly scrolling through a feed of photos, memes, and emote-filled status updates, endlessly.

It scares me, to be honest. I wonder where this tendency in people will lead in the very long run, particularly when you consider the ideas suggested by companies like Neuralink. It brings Black Mirror to mind.

Will people permanently have an inexhaustible feed of vapid garbage playing in their mind while they ignore most of everything going on in reality, in their actual real life?

However, this is unrelated to the original point. Just a side thought.

Re:Chrome Won by lotyrin on Thursday May 25, 2017 @08:32PM (#14421222)
> Will people permanently have an inexhaustible feed of vapid garbage playing in their mind while they ignore most of everything going on in reality, in their actual real life?

Is that not already how it is? Each time I've been the new kid at school or new guy at the office, it seems there's nothing for people to talk about if you don't know all the TV shows or all the memes or all the movies or music or the celeb gossip or latest sports happenings or news or video game releases or this weeks anime developments or whatever it is each person chooses to fill their thought process with other than the world immediately around them.

It seems it's probably comforting to be consumed by external things over which you have no power, instead of being sober about closer things - some of which you could influence given significant effort, some of which you are powerless to influence with any amount of effort.

Re:Chrome Won by oblio on Thursday May 25, 2017 @11:24PM (#14421793)
The most popular newspaper and magazines in every country are things like Bild, The Sun, The Daily Maily. Basically celebrity gossip and scandals.

The most popular TV shows are of things with similar content or at least content quality.

What made you think that the internet or mobile would be any different? :)

Re:Chrome Won by kalleboo on Thursday May 25, 2017 @10:52PM (#14421713)
What do you expect people to be doing on the train? Contributing to emacs?
Re:Chrome Won by aerovistae on Friday May 26, 2017 @03:48AM (#14422573)
Well, personally I read books. I think I learn more and remember more from the books than I or they do from social media feeds, which I think are a lot like putting your mind on hibernate to get from point A to point B in a temporal sense.

I don't ask that everyone read books, god forbid, but it would be nice if people weren't using their phones to put themselves into hibernate nearly all of the time. The phrasing of your question implies that the train is an isolated circumstance, but in my experience I see people out on dates with both people on their phones ignoring each other, and even whole groups of friends out together, all on their phones.

I just wish people would engage more.

Re:Chrome Won by nsomaru on Friday May 26, 2017 @06:02AM (#14422993)
> which I think are a lot like putting your mind on hibernate to get from point A to point B in a temporal sense.

I was interested to find that in India, things are named in a way that brings out little points like this. For example, Indians call the little snacks you can buy on trains (like roasted, spiced peanuts) 'timepass.' A way to put the mind on hibernate and pass the time until the next desirable experience, presumably.

Maybe that's just what people want most of the time? The world can't always be the way we'd like it to be, and we're just passing time in a way that takes minimal effort. To get to the next desirable experience.

For most, the phone is where they go when a situation becomes uncomfortable or unfavourable. It's easier to do that than meet and correct the situation (if it's correctable at all). Or learn to see beauty in the mundane.

We need to build a culture of reasoned, purposeful existence, rather than one that is constantly buckling to the whims and fancies of our immediate demands.

Re:Chrome Won by madeofpalk on Friday May 26, 2017 @08:41PM (#14428268)
> Well, personally I read books

> I just wish people would engage more.

Some people loose themselves in their phone, others loose themselves into a book.

They're both the same.

Re:Chrome Won by aerovistae on Monday May 29, 2017 @05:44PM (#14441627)
Do you really believe that?

If you do, then you must agree that you could replace every moment in your life that had been spent reading a book with you perusing your phone, and you would be the same person today.

Do you believe that to be true?

Re:Chrome Won by fasquoika on Friday May 26, 2017 @02:17AM (#14422298)
No, he expects them to comment on HN - a proper, respectable website - unlike that Facebook thing the plebs seem so interested in. /s
Re:Chrome Won by aerovistae on Friday May 26, 2017 @03:51AM (#14422595)
No, I don't. I will concede that I believe there's vastly more to learn from HN than from a social media feed, and I will "concede" that I believe your time is better spent on something educational than something solitary and mildly amusing that just idly passes the time and is then forgotten. But I do not seek to force that perspective on anyone.

I just wish people didn't ignore the world all the time in favor of carrying their computer (phone) around with them and staring into it all day long.

Re:Chrome Won by madeofpalk on Friday May 26, 2017 @08:43PM (#14428274)
They're on the same train ride into work for the 600th time. There's only so much of that same part of the world you can pay attention to.
Re:Chrome Won by sgift on Friday May 26, 2017 @02:25AM (#14422324)
Where else do people use mobile devices? At home?
Re:Chrome Won by Joeri on Friday May 26, 2017 @03:47AM (#14422569)
I've been taking public transportation from before the era people had their smartphones with them. What I used to see where people reading tabloid newspapers, celebrity magazines, or cheap novels; here and there the rare person who was reading something interesting and insightful, and most people staring out of the window with their eyes glazed over. What I see now is lots of instagram, snapchat, facebook and mobile games, with a rare person here or there who is reading actual long-form articles, and with a minority of people staring out the window with their eyes glazed over. I don't think the difference is all that big to be honest, except that fewer people stare out the window.

What amuses me is when I see someone reading an actual physical book. It is so rare, and it is almost every time someone trying to be hip.

Re:Chrome Won by nsomaru on Friday May 26, 2017 @06:14AM (#14423023)
> What amuses me is when I see someone reading an actual physical book. It is so rare, and it is almost every time someone trying to be hip.

Reading a book is an almost entirely introverted activity. How is the motivation to be hip going to be enough to sustain one's attention across the length of an entire book?

Re:Chrome Won by ashark on Thursday May 25, 2017 @09:22PM (#14421458)
> It scares me, to be honest. I wonder where this tendency in people will lead in the very long run, particularly when you consider the ideas suggested by companies like Neuralink. It brings Black Mirror to mind.

15 Million Merits isn't about the future.

Re:Chrome Won by madeofpalk on Thursday May 25, 2017 @08:17PM (#14421127)
...who cares? Why are your sites so superior and quality for 'proper internet' but these things that people actually use doesn't?
Re:Chrome Won by Retra on Thursday May 25, 2017 @08:20PM (#14421159)
Because the things that tend to be the most valuable to society tend to also be hard to achieve. If you could be a good person by doing what is easy and immediately gratifying, there would be no trouble in the world.
Re:Chrome Won by criddell on Friday May 26, 2017 @08:07AM (#14423465)
> 99 in 100 mobile core users are stupid facebookers who don't even know what is the internet and wouldn't be using the internet at all if it wasn't for Facebook, Instagram or whatever

And that's precisely why mobile is eating the world. Facebook, Instagram, and other social platforms drive a lot of traffic.