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Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by jliptzin on Saturday April 29, 2017 @11:29AM (#14226974)
Here's three rules someone once gave me which I can't emphasize strongly enough.

1. Never use Paypal. For ANY reason.

2. Never. Use. Paypal. For. Any. Reason.

3. See rule #1.

Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by lj3 on Saturday April 29, 2017 @11:51AM (#14227095)
What's the alternative?
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by snorrah on Saturday April 29, 2017 @03:25PM (#14228251)
If it helps, Circle is now usable for UK people. I think it's one of the few that makes UK<>US payments easy.

Square Cash is not available in the UK for example. The US has a much larger choice. Unsure about other countries, sorry.

Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by snowpanda on Sunday April 30, 2017 @12:49AM (#14230204)
Another vote for circle, too bad they stopped taking bitcoin
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by Bud on Saturday April 29, 2017 @03:01PM (#14228136)
Square Cash is absolutely fantastic, and extraordinarily easy to use. The mobile app is great. You can even send money to someone who doesn't even have a Square Cash account yet, by simply emailing them, cc'ing [email protected], and putting the dollar amount in the Subject: line. That's it.

You can't beat it.

Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by lwhalen on Saturday April 29, 2017 @08:24PM (#14229554)
Square is just as bad as PayPal, IME. Lots of arbitrary rules, clients unable to pay me, funds withheld for no good reason, etc. I'll stick with bank transfers (ACH) or Bitcoin, personally.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by idunno246 on Saturday April 29, 2017 @03:20PM (#14228230)
They shut down the email address unless you were grandfathered into it :(
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by jimktrains2 on Saturday April 29, 2017 @07:12PM (#14229286)
That sounds extremely easy to spoof. Was there more to it to confirm than that?
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by tdicola on Saturday April 29, 2017 @01:37PM (#14227696)
Cash, check, wire, etc.. you know how we've been banking for hundreds of years.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by chrisper on Saturday April 29, 2017 @01:51PM (#14227744)
For international transfers, I use Transferwise.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by welly on Saturday April 29, 2017 @05:46PM (#14228953)
You and me both.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by unstatusthequo on Saturday April 29, 2017 @12:00PM (#14227142)
Venmo, Square Cash, etc.

Xoom is PayPal now.

Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by nmy on Saturday April 29, 2017 @12:02PM (#14227164)
Venmo is Paypal as well
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by al_chemist on Saturday April 29, 2017 @07:31PM (#14229380)
If you want total control of your funds - Bitcoin. No TOS, no age check, no account freezing, no corporation behind it.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by xux on Sunday April 30, 2017 @02:40AM (#14230433)
Yes, and random loss in value which is just as bad as theft
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by thiagocsf on Sunday April 30, 2017 @04:09AM (#14230624)
Very limited exposure if you're converting to cash on the same day. But you could also pick another digital currency.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by itake on Saturday April 29, 2017 @12:42PM (#14227367)
facebook also has free payments
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by kefka on Saturday April 29, 2017 @01:25PM (#14227624)
And I want to give Facebook my credit card why?

Yeah, no.

Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by geofft on Saturday April 29, 2017 @02:21PM (#14227894)
What is the threat model you envision with giving Facebook your credit card number? Transactions are reversible by calling up your credit card company, and Facebook, for what little reputation it has, still has more of a reputation to uphold and more internal security controls than the local diner where you physically hand your card to a waiter and let them take it out of your sight.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by kennywinker on Saturday April 29, 2017 @02:29PM (#14227940)
Facebook is an ad company. Credit card companies collect and sell purchase history. Giving them your cc number explicitly links your purchase history to your facebook account. Realistically they've probably already made the jump using your name and DOB, but at least they had to work for it...
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by briandear on Saturday April 29, 2017 @06:50PM (#14229202)
Credit card companies sell data in aggregate. They don't sell your specific card history.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by cyphar on Saturday April 29, 2017 @08:24PM (#14229555)
If you're paying for things through Facebook they don't need to contact your credit card company to get a list of payments they've facilitated, for obvious reasons.

Given that the best minds of this generation are working on making advertising more efficient, would it be surprising that such information would help Facebook?

Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by kefka on Saturday April 29, 2017 @02:48PM (#14228070)
1. Banking industry has some legal requirements. More than Facebook does, for sure.

2. I If you want my purchase history, you can subpoena a bank for it. Whereas I wouldn't be surprised with "App Permissions" to allow to view 'previous purchases'. 90% of people wouldn't know/care.

3. I don't want, nor need every account under the sun hooked up to a SPOF. In this case, it's Fb. That also applies to Google as well.

4. "If you're not paying, you're the product." adage applies. If you want my banking details, you can bloody pay me for that.

5. And, you need not apply if you're: transgender, gay, member of Antifa, or other groups Facebook is discriminating against or has active people causing "reporting storms" to disconnect you from your account. Read about "God" page recently disabled over a "quit funding war and start finding social services" comment. That earned them a 30 day ban, most likely automated.

Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by briandear on Saturday April 29, 2017 @06:47PM (#14229187)
What are you even talking about?
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by kefka on Saturday April 29, 2017 @08:07PM (#14229494)
Do you actually have real questions about the words I typed, or are you just trying to shame me into something?

Because, reading comprehension is fundamental. You might want to watch a Youtube video about it....

Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by geekamongus on Saturday April 29, 2017 @02:28PM (#14227936)
Well, you have to have a Facebook account, for starters.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by eugeniub on Saturday April 29, 2017 @02:35PM (#14227986)
Are you afraid a company like Facebook will make unauthorized transactions?
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by Jare on Saturday April 29, 2017 @03:23PM (#14228241)
You only need to be afraid they will use it in ways you may not approve and may not even know of.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by robryan on Saturday April 29, 2017 @10:07PM (#14229816)
Unfortunately as an ecommerce site you probably lose some portion of sales by not offering it.
Re:If you opened your PayPal account before you were 18, clo... by jliptzin on Sunday April 30, 2017 @12:25PM (#14232288)
That's not true, I've tested that before. People seem to be used to typing in CC info into a stripe form, for example, and have no problem doing it.