Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by whyenot on Friday December 23, 2016 @01:28PM
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When it comes to many ocean fisheries, we are literally scraping the bottom of the barrel, unfortunately.
Take for example slimeheads (marketed as "orange roughy" in the USA). These fish live deep in the ocean, can take decades to reach reproductive maturity and a marketable size, and can live up to 149 years. Harvested by bottom trawling, their commercial exploitation causes tremendous damage to the seafloor. Just some food for thought the next time you sit down in a restaurant and dine on a fish that is likely older than your parents.
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by antisthenes on Saturday December 24, 2016 @01:56AM
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They aren't even good fish to eat.
High in mercury, low in omega-3 acids. And being from the twilight zone, something tells me it will taste like all the other scavenger-type fish and sea creatures.
Only reason to eat one over a farmed salmon would be for the novelty factor.
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by Reason077 on Friday December 23, 2016 @09:59AM
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Unfortunately as many waters have been overfished and thus are no longer productive, trawlers have to go deeper and deeper to keep our supermarkets well stocked with endangered seafoods like Halibut.
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by cgh on Friday December 23, 2016 @12:20PM
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I think this is a myth that gets propogated online without any citations. Giger's "Necronom IV" painting from 1976[0] was the inspiration of the xenomorph in "Alien". Is there any evidence this painting was in turn inspired by deep undersea creatures?
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by jghn on Friday December 23, 2016 @02:29PM
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I believe the article I linked mentioned the thought being that it was the queen from Aliens, not the original xenomorph. I also wouldn't be surprised to find it to be untrue altogether, thus the "believed to be" phrasing.
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by zilian on Friday December 23, 2016 @05:31AM
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It is fascinating, yet sad to see so many endangered species if you go on his instagram feed. For instance the Ocean sunfish: https://youtu.be/ddUJT0i9sCM?t=59
"Malacosteus and the related genera ... are the only fishes that produce red bioluminescence. As most of their prey organisms are not capable of perceiving light at those wavelengths, this allows Malacosteus to hunt with an essentially invisible beam of light. Furthermore, Malacosteus is unique amongst animals in using a chlorophyll derivative to perceive red light."
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by whowalrus on Friday December 23, 2016 @03:56AM
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Extremely fascinating. Seeing the alien-ness of the creatures, I wonder if any fiction writers have written well-researched stories set in this portion of the ocean? Seems like it would make for a fascinating setting.
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by Lio on Friday December 23, 2016 @06:12AM
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What always blows my mind is that these most alien looking creatures are not alien at all. We share DNA with them and are evolved for the same planet.
Which begs the question, what would actual aliens look like?
Would parallel evolution produce familiar looking creatures or something much much stranger? I imagine it's something that sci-fi authors spend a bit of time thinking about.
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by ecdavis on Friday December 23, 2016 @11:06AM
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There's a great book about this called "Life Beyond Earth" by Gerald Feinberg and Robert Shapiro. It discusses possibilities ranging from silicon-based life to plasma-based and even radiation-based life. It's not speculative, but since it's rather old the science in it may be dated.
It's worth reading if you're interested in this topic.
Re:A deep-sea fisherman in Russia has been posting his finds...
by dave_sullivan on Friday December 23, 2016 @11:51AM
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I'd also recommend Greg Egan's diaspora, it presents some interesting ideas around forms alien species might take. I don't want to give anything away, but the author takes things a few steps further than most sci-fi about exploring the universe(s).
Take for example slimeheads (marketed as "orange roughy" in the USA). These fish live deep in the ocean, can take decades to reach reproductive maturity and a marketable size, and can live up to 149 years. Harvested by bottom trawling, their commercial exploitation causes tremendous damage to the seafloor. Just some food for thought the next time you sit down in a restaurant and dine on a fish that is likely older than your parents.
High in mercury, low in omega-3 acids. And being from the twilight zone, something tells me it will taste like all the other scavenger-type fish and sea creatures.
Only reason to eat one over a farmed salmon would be for the novelty factor.
http://www.seafoodwatch.org/seafood-recommendations/groups/h...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_halibut
In any case, nobody would disagree that Halibut stocks have been depleted (or even eradicated) in many areas where it was once plentiful.
1. The Chimera: https://twitter.com/rfedortsov/status/808018055905349637
and
2. The Cyclops: https://twitter.com/rfedortsov/status/811778971075547136
http://www.livescience.com/43076-meet-phronima-the-barrel-ri...
[0] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/H.R._Giger_-_...
Many of them are abyssal species, I wonder how deep are they trawling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoplight_loosejaw
"Malacosteus and the related genera ... are the only fishes that produce red bioluminescence. As most of their prey organisms are not capable of perceiving light at those wavelengths, this allows Malacosteus to hunt with an essentially invisible beam of light. Furthermore, Malacosteus is unique amongst animals in using a chlorophyll derivative to perceive red light."
My eyes are rolling so hard right now.
To their credit, BI's clickbait headline writing skills are stronger and their thesaurus of adverbs thicker than many competitor sites.
Plus you'll never guess this one amazing thing BI does that skyrocketed them to among the best in the industry at headlines...
Which begs the question, what would actual aliens look like?
Would parallel evolution produce familiar looking creatures or something much much stranger? I imagine it's something that sci-fi authors spend a bit of time thinking about.
It's worth reading if you're interested in this topic.
I don't really remember how much creatures feature in the book though.
It's a brilliant game series but I don't remember seeing any mad undersea creatures in it.
It is in the end as alien as outer space, and even less explored.
[1]: http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/russland-fischer-fa...
[2]: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=h...
And know that it's waiting for you. It's very good at waiting.