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Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by mmastrac on Monday November 28, 2016 @03:42PM (#13058237)
Destroying thousands of units kind of sucks - would it cost a great deal to have the inventory shipped to some sort of low-cost offline storage for later sale? Or is that just going to eat into margins?

Edit: since the game appears to be kid-friendly and non-partisan, maybe the company should consider a crowdfunding campaign to buy back the extra stock and send them to schools for free.

Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by mabbo on Monday November 28, 2016 @04:02PM (#13058380)
The expensive part is shipping.

Option 1: Ship to paying customers. This is the ideal outcome.

Option 2: Ship everything back to the seller, or to a storage place, etc. Expensive because Amazon has to have labour go and retrieve it all (look up videos for how Amazon stores its items- it's madness and it's awesome). Then you need to essentially pay for one or more pallets of stuff to be shipped, which is cheaper than shipping individually, but not free.

Option 3: Destroy it all. Amazon charges you because even destroying it isn't that cheap. It's cheaper than shipping it, yes, but there's still a lot of work involved.

I think if you want to help these guys out, encourage people to buy the game.

Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by JPTeasdale on Monday November 28, 2016 @03:54PM (#13058312)
Yeah it does suck. We're going to look exactly at how much it'll cost to ship / warehouse them vs destroy. My gut instinct is shipping + storing 5000 for the duration until they sellout would be comparable to just printing a second edition in China if demand picks up again.
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by deckar01 on Monday November 28, 2016 @05:46PM (#13059097)
Have you heard of meh.com? I'm not sure how they pick their products, but they seem like a good place to dump a pallet of unwanted goods in order to break even.
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by guiomie on Monday November 28, 2016 @03:57PM (#13058337)
Can't you give them away? Would be some extra marketing.
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by JPTeasdale on Monday November 28, 2016 @04:03PM (#13058386)
Even giving them away cost's ~$6 per unit to ship them somewhere. We're looking into donating a bunch to schools / libraries / other non-profits.
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by arnarbi on Monday November 28, 2016 @04:29PM (#13058593)
Offer current buyers the option of giving a second copy to charity for an extra $5?
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by lxmorj on Monday November 28, 2016 @08:04PM (#13059874)
Charity up-sell is an interesting idea. Sort of like the popular buy-one give-one business model, but optional.
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by robertelder on Monday November 28, 2016 @04:38PM (#13058660)
Idea: Give them away or destroy them in a spectacularly interesting way that millions of people will want to watch:

https://holidayhole.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcMDMoNu66_1Hwi5-MeiQgw/fea...

https://www.youtube.com/user/Blendtec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXtSlEW1XmE

Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by JPTeasdale on Monday November 28, 2016 @07:05PM (#13059541)
Hmm. I wonder if people would tune into a GIANT POLITICAL BONFIRE.
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by karmajunkie on Monday November 28, 2016 @04:22PM (#13058544)
well, i just bought a couple, so knock that problem down a couple more units...
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by kamjam on Monday November 28, 2016 @05:26PM (#13058964)
What about selling them very very cheaply as an Amazon Add-on item?
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by JPTeasdale on Monday November 28, 2016 @11:29PM (#13060800)
Amazon has worse margins than our online store already. The way I see it. We can drop the price, but we still have to market it. It'd be just as much work to market a $5 as it would a $30 game.
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by paulcole on Monday November 28, 2016 @11:31PM (#13060813)
Amazon sets "Add-on" status not the seller.
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by joshu on Monday November 28, 2016 @04:26PM (#13058572)
what if you sell them at a very low price point? Or does that damage the brand value?
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by JPTeasdale on Monday November 28, 2016 @07:02PM (#13059517)
It's reach, really. Even if we drop the price, the only people who'd will know about that are the people on our mailing list.

Getting picked up on HN really came out of the blue. It's the most people who we've been in front of since the Kickstarter campaign. You can't bank on that.

Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by prawn on Monday November 28, 2016 @10:30PM (#13060546)
Could you do a special offer to previous buyers, offering them a second, cheaper deal which they can then gift to someone else?

Comes across as a reward for them, justifies the lower price (discount for them only), but hopefully solves your inventory/storage issue somewhat.

Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by JPTeasdale on Monday November 28, 2016 @11:28PM (#13060791)
Funny you mention that! We have a hidden stocking stuffer deal $40 all in for 3 games. If you mined the comments then you get it too: http://thecontender.us/products/contender-holiday-secret-sur...
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by ikeboy on Monday November 28, 2016 @04:11PM (#13058453)
I have a lot of experience with FBA, feel free to email me, might be able to help.

Address is in my profile here.

Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by ikeboy on Monday November 28, 2016 @03:45PM (#13058261)
It costs 50 cents per item to recall, but you sometimes can't send the same item in again for some time.

By the way, based on the rank of the items, it's selling around 50-100 units a month as of now.

Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by mmastrac on Monday November 28, 2016 @03:52PM (#13058309)
I know zilch about the physical inventory world - is that $.50 something Amazon will charge?
Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by ikeboy on Monday November 28, 2016 @04:05PM (#13058411)
Yes, Amazon charges 50 cents to recall an item.

Sometimes they offer free recalls (right before q4 when they wanted to clear out their warehouse, for instance), but then you usually can't send the same item in for some time.

They really don't want people using them for long term storage, they've been pushing for people to only send in inventory that will sell soon. That's why they have extra fees if you have something there past 6 months, and again past 12 months.

They also started charging extra for storage during q4 (November and December).

Re:We turned $140k on Kickstarter into $40k debt and broke even by acveilleux on Monday November 28, 2016 @03:45PM (#13058263)
It's likely to add up to the printing cost pretty fast.