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Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by muterad_murilax on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @10:33PM (#13027796)
I wonder why they still write "OS X". Intentional or just due to somebody's lack of attention to detail?
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by doomlaser on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @11:02PM (#13027955)
'macOS' is just too much of an affectation to ask for in styling capitalization. You'll notice a lot of people resisting it, defiantly writing 'MacOS'.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by astrodust on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:57AM (#13028500)
Traditionally "Mac OS" -> "[Mac] OS X" -> "macOS"

It was often compacted to MacOS for various reasons, like brevity, keyword searchability and tagging.

Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by duaneb on Thursday November 24, 2016 @11:00AM (#13030937)
I dunno, it's hard to get better search ability than what we had with "osx". Among other things, there are a lot of code bases with Mac OS 9 code hanging around in directories named "macos".
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by rimantas on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:06PM (#13031325)
Apple has now standardized the names: iPS, tvOS, watchOS, macOS.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by draw_down on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @11:11PM (#13028006)
OK, but this page is made by Apple.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by terinjokes on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @11:16PM (#13028030)
When you have a name for over a decade, you tend to have it hard coded in a bunch of places...
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by Ultra_64 on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @11:36PM (#13028133)
On the other hand, the official name was 'Mac OS X' until 2012.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by eridius on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:40AM (#13028427)
Sure, but it was nearly always just referred to as "OS X", so the official renaming in 2012 was just moving it in line with how people already referred to it.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by draw_down on Thursday November 24, 2016 @08:42AM (#13030269)
Yeah, my company moved offices a few months back and we had the old location in a surprising number of places around the codebase.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by Bud on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:22AM (#13028350)
Not really. "iOS" is standard and no resistance has been noted.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by notmything on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:57AM (#13028498)
So if one thing is true then other similar things must be true!!!
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by hultner on Thursday November 24, 2016 @05:47AM (#13029612)
No resistance is overstepping, as far as I remember a few had a hard time foregoing iPhone OS initially. But that's maybe not what you're talking about.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by tedmiston on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:51AM (#13028472)
Lowercased i titles are / were / have been common and comfortable though. Some of them even before iOS.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by helthanatos on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @11:42PM (#13028167)
I always preferred OS X over any of the similar names... I hate that they changed it back to MacOS
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by gilgoomesh on Thursday November 24, 2016 @02:03AM (#13028740)
I develop Mac software and support my software via email. The problem I always had with "OS X" is that users who don't know what an "OS" is, didn't seem to parse "OS X" at all (they would reply back as though it didn't appear in the sentence). They certainly didn't associate it with their Mac – apparently thinking it was just some weird sigil that the geek in the internet computer machine had included for no reason. I always had to say "Mac OS X Lion" (or whatever the big cat name of the year was) to get any level of understanding.

"macOS", for all its initial lowercase goofiness is at least understood by most users.

Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by grzm on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @11:46PM (#13028185)
OS X has always suffered from all-to-common misreading, however. They traded that for a likely-to-be all-too-common miscapitalization/misspacing.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by tedmiston on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:55AM (#13028489)
I always thought it was pretty clear to say "os ecks" myself, but I've heard internally / correctly people say "oh es ten". It's hard to break the habit after 5+ years though.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by grzm on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:58AM (#13028503)
Last vestiges of Roman enumeration :). Saw an article the other day that said "Part I of V". I shook my head.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by majewsky on Thursday November 24, 2016 @07:08AM (#13029890)
Why? "Part I of V" is crystal-clear. It's the nineth part of a 22-part series, preceded by "Part H" and succeeded by "Part J". :)
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by DanielDent on Thursday November 24, 2016 @03:27PM (#13032565)
This is such a good example of the difference between Strongly typed and Stringly typed.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by vacri on Thursday November 24, 2016 @01:34AM (#13028632)
It was never really meant to be "OS 10", despite what the 'correct way' to say it was. Pure marketing.

If it was really meant to be "OS 10", then they wouldn't have versions like "OS X 10.6", they'd just have "OS X.6" or "OS X.VI". How many people do you hear saying "OS ten ten point six"?

Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by brobinson on Thursday November 24, 2016 @03:01AM (#13028949)
>The current version of Mac OS is Mac OS X (pronounced "Mac O-S ten").

https://support.apple.com/kb/TA22541?locale=en_US

Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by 3poundkilograms on Thursday November 24, 2016 @08:44AM (#13030282)
I think he meant that it was not supposed to be "Mac Oh Es Ten Ten Nine Two", but rather "Mac Oh Es Ten Nine Two" when referring to Mac OS X 10.9.2. Do you think people said "Mac Oh Es Nine Nine One", or "Mac Oh Es Nine One" for Mac OS 9.1?
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by hunter2_ on Thursday November 24, 2016 @09:56AM (#13030598)
I think you write (and say as /ten/) "X" as the major version if you're also using the non-numeric minor version: "Mac OS X Snow Leopard"; but you omit it when using the numeric minor version so as to also use the Arabic major version: "Mac OS 10.6". You say /ten/ either way and never twice.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by 3poundkilograms on Friday November 25, 2016 @09:11AM (#13036811)
People seem to quite commonly write "Mac OS X 10.6", which duplicates the 10. News articles and Wikipedia included. I don't remember what the machines themselves reported, though. I don't have anything pre-Sierra anymore.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by marblar on Thursday November 24, 2016 @03:12AM (#13028983)
I'm pretty sure it was meant to be OS 10 the whole time. It succeeded OS 9.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by tedmiston on Thursday November 24, 2016 @11:14AM (#13031023)
I've heard employees try to avoid using the dot notation when they speak in favor of just saying the codename.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by gurkendoktor on Thursday November 24, 2016 @06:43PM (#13033502)
One issue with the "OS X" name was that you have to use a non-breaking space (alt+space) between OS and X to prevent awkward line breaks in the middle of the brand, which in turn made it harder to search for "OS X" in dumb text editors.
Re:MacOS 10.12 Open Source Components by rangibaby on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:07AM (#13028281)
probably CBF updating the page to say macOS