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Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by dan1234 on Monday November 07, 2016 @09:45AM (#12891341)
> personally doubt a wealthy person would use that bank and yet they seem to think their customers are pissing gold.

Actually they give a decent interest rate (relative to the competition) of 3% on the first £3,000[0] so I know a few people who have multiple accounts with them just to reap the interest.

[0]http://www.tescobank.com/current-accounts/

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by elcct on Monday November 07, 2016 @09:53AM (#12891425)
3% minus inflation of 0.6% that would be 2.4% of £3000, which is £72 a year, which gives £6 a month. Is it worth the hassle?
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by simonh on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:01AM (#12891518)
I don't understand why you're subtracting inflation. Yes I know doing so gives you the 'real terms' increase in value, but if you stuff £3,000 in a mattress and pull it out after a year you don't notionally add inflation to it's value when comparing it to the value of savings. The savings in that account would still be 3% more than your mattress money, not 2.4% more. Unless you're comparing it to spending all the money right now.

Anyway, £6 (or £7.50) is the price of a meal. £72 (or £90) is the price of a few decent Christmas presents. These things add up.

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by mcbuilder on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:13AM (#12891644)
He's probably subtracting inflation to make the interest rate of Tesco relative to the rest of the economy. Stuffing money in a mattress is a pretty poor idea when it should be very easy to find an investment scheme that covers inflation.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by simonh on Monday November 07, 2016 @11:06AM (#12892095)
It's not like the rest of the economy is immune from inflation though. Do we adjust everything for inflation? It just strikes me as pointless complication. Really, the only point I can think of is comparing saving to outright immediate spending.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by DicksenZuider on Monday November 07, 2016 @11:28AM (#12892279)
Certain statistics are usually inflation adjusted, like GDP. Real Gross Domestic Product measures economic output adjusted for inflation or deflation. If inflation is 20%, and you're earning 3% interest, your losing purchasing power. If inflation is 1% and you're earning 3%, you're gaining.

Real, not nominal, returns are what people care about.

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by rifung on Monday November 07, 2016 @01:25PM (#12893476)
> If inflation is 20%, and you're earning 3% interest, your losing purchasing power.

Yes but I think the point the person you're replying to is trying to make is that it doesn't matter because the inflation rate is not dependent on where you put your money.

Shouldn't the comparison be to the interest rates and risk with comparable places to put/invest your money? I suppose if inflation were extremely high or low compared to interest rates then it would affect your appetite for risk vs interest rate, but I don't think that's the case here.

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by foota on Monday November 07, 2016 @01:28PM (#12893496)
You need to consider real returns only if the inflation rate varies between things you're looking at, i.e., across countries or time.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by verbify on Monday November 07, 2016 @02:09PM (#12893905)
But investing in 'the economy' generally means investing in the stock market. Which introduces risk, which isn't great for an emergency fund - and you'll no longer be covered by FSCS.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by pikzen on Monday November 07, 2016 @11:47AM (#12892456)
When you're storing small sums of money (less than 10k €/$), the amount you lose from inflation from stuffing money in a mattress over a year is negligible.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by dan1234 on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:18AM (#12891705)
There aren’t many other options when it comes to low risk, short term money storage. Certainly beats any cash ISA rate atm (some of which are actually below inflation).

There’s a website[0] dedicated to helping with this style of saving, so I think it’s a fairly popular thing with people who don’t want to leave money on the table.

[0]https://www.bankaccountsavings.co.uk

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by to3m on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:27AM (#12891778)
What hassle? If you need a current account, open a Tesco one, and you're getting free money.

(If you opening multiple ones, and juggling money between them or whatever, you're probably just the sort of person who gets a kick out of doing this sort of thing, and so the exact figure is beside the point...)

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by spoonie on Monday November 07, 2016 @01:22PM (#12893446)
£72 in a year for about 15 minutes of effort sounds worth it to me. (Apply online and transfer money to the account online.)
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by fredkingham on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:18AM (#12891700)
because a lot of accounts provide an interest rate that's below inflation
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by mcintyre1994 on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:24AM (#12891754)
Think of it as a savings account and it's fairly competitive in the current climate. No monthly pay-in required, no direct debits etc. required, just 3% interest no questions asked.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by brador on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:30AM (#12891799)
With Brexit uncertainty the current GBP inflation is over 20%. 3% is a drop in an ocean on that.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by TheGrumpyBrit on Monday November 07, 2016 @11:39AM (#12892363)
If the UK is in as much trouble as the naysayers seem to think, that 3% counts for more than ever, since cash will be tight.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by parenthesis on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:59AM (#12892029)
The UK doesn't import everything.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by johansch on Monday November 07, 2016 @11:19AM (#12892197)
No, but quite a lot.

"Overseas Trade Statistics. In July 2016 the value of exports (EU and Non-EU) decreased to £23.9 billion, and imports (EU and Non-EU) decreased to £39.7 billion, compared with last month. Consequently the UK is a net importer this month, with imports exceeding exports by £15.9 billion."

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTradeStatisti...

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by johansch on Monday November 07, 2016 @02:02PM (#12893834)
So, (brits), why did you downvote this without commenting?

(It went from +3 to 0.)

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by martinald on Monday November 07, 2016 @05:16PM (#12895731)
I would guess because the UK economy is worth ~£2tn. £150bn of imports raising at 20% isn't a huge impact (around 1-2% - not a huge deal in the grand schemes of things).

PS: I didn't downvote you.

Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by johansch on Monday November 07, 2016 @05:49PM (#12895971)
That's because of the London banking. Which is now moving th Frankfurt.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by blibble on Monday November 07, 2016 @06:36PM (#12896297)
fat chance, some back office operations will move (as little as possible), and the lucrative front office work will remain in London as that's where the clients are
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by walshemj on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:52AM (#12901778)
60% of food and petrol (gas) is priced in dollars
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by brador on Monday November 07, 2016 @11:07AM (#12892099)
Whether you like it or not the USD is the world peg right now and a currencies worth in USD is its true measure of inflation. What the national bank prints is negligible in comparison.
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by isostatic on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @04:38AM (#12898875)
I'd suggest using international drawing rights, a basket of currencies that mean fluctuations in the dollar are evened out
Re:Tesco Bank halts online payments after money was taken fr... by johansch on Monday November 07, 2016 @02:04PM (#12893857)
They seem to be in full self denial mode right now.