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Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by CoryG89 on Friday November 04, 2016 @04:22AM (#12871076)
I wonder if there is just about anything (other than water) that you can put in your body that wouldn't have some effect on the mutation rate of some particular cells in your body.
Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by nonbel on Friday November 04, 2016 @10:37AM (#12872859)
Of course, that seems to be exactly what is going on:

>"These considerations of mechanism suggest that at chronic doses close to the toxic dose, any chemical, whether synthetic or natural, and whether genotoxic or nongenotoxic, is a likely rodent and human carcinogen. Not all chemicals would be expected to be carcinogens at high doses; the MTD may not be reached (101) or the chemical may be toxic without causing cell killing or mitogenesis."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC54830/

Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by mihaifm on Friday November 04, 2016 @05:33AM (#12871292)
It might be that anything consumed in excess, over long periods of time, causes mutations in your body. Just a theory.
Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by tirant on Friday November 04, 2016 @02:17PM (#12874683)
For that to be the case it should be accumulated in the body in the form of toxins or similar molecules, there's no other 'memory'.

So no, it does not work exactly like that. Some chemical compounds trigger mutations at a higher rate than others.

Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by tkyjonathan on Friday November 04, 2016 @05:29AM (#12871281)
Plants, fruits, starchy vegetables..
Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by wtbob on Friday November 04, 2016 @07:01AM (#12871637)
Tobacco is a plant!

A wonderfully aromatic plant …

Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by mkagenius on Friday November 04, 2016 @09:25AM (#12872328)
Cooking and eating it won't have the same effect (cancer wise) as smoking it.
Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by quesera on Friday November 04, 2016 @09:36AM (#12872405)
Chewing tobacco does bad things.
Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by zeveb on Friday November 04, 2016 @10:57AM (#12873064)
I wonder if that's due to the other stuff typically added to chewing tobacco.

It'd be interesting if tobacco could be safer, but isn't, because the manufacturers don't want to incur the expense and anti-tobacco folks want to keep people from smoking at all, not make it safer (c.f. vaping, which is — I think — basically harmless and yet is banned as much as smoking is).

Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by striking on Friday November 04, 2016 @11:35AM (#12873379)
According to the American Cancer Society:

> The most harmful cancer-causing substances in smokeless tobacco are tobacco-specific nitrosamines.

> Cancers linked to the use of smokeless tobacco include:

  * Mouth, tongue, cheek, and gum cancer
  * Cancer in the esophagus
  * Pancreatic cancer
You can also get other kinds of mouth and tooth problems, and of course nicotine is still a definite health risk.

If there were a way to make tobacco healthy, I think the manufacturers would have spared no expense to do so, because the death of a customer prevents them from spending more money on what is sold.

(No idea about anti-vaping people, though.)

Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by pessimizer on Friday November 04, 2016 @01:03PM (#12874083)
None of these are true for snus, and the American Cancer Society hasn't been the most trustworthy party on tobacco (although they should be.)

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=swedish%20snus

The Lancet article is good, but there's a universal consensus.

Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by pessimizer on Friday November 04, 2016 @12:54PM (#12874009)
It's based on roasting/burning it, the same reason why meat is cancer-causing. That's also why Swedish snus probably isn't cancer causing, because instead of being roasted, the tobacco is steam pasteurized.

I can't imagine that cigarettes would work with steamed leaves.

edit: And you'd have to vape the steamed leaf cigarettes, of course.

Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by CoryG89 on Friday November 04, 2016 @05:38AM (#12871308)
Surely there are plenty of plants containing chemicals which if injested in some way could cause a change in cell mutations.
Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by rubicon33 on Friday November 04, 2016 @01:05PM (#12874094)
To confirm your point, last time I checked, vegans were still dying from cancer too.
Re:Smoking “causes hundreds of DNA changes” by gozur88 on Saturday November 05, 2016 @12:15AM (#12878139)
You get DNA damage from a lot of different sources, from food to viruses to radiation to industrial chemicals to just plain replication errors.

I agree vegans probably still get cell damage from the food they eat, but that's not proof positive because they would still die from cancer even if they didn't.