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Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:07PM (#12859282)
I used to have that. It was my Nokia n900. I was able to pull up live thumbnail previews of all apps running in the background, and this included live simultaneous previews of: youtube videos in a web browser, games, and Debian, without lag. Try doing that on today's technology. It had a wonderfully acurate resistive touch screen that was pressure senstive that was really good for drawing and coloring! The camera would start up immediately as soon as I opened the shutter, even while the screen is off and in a sleep state. My modern android device takes so much longer to even get the shutter ready.

I loved always having access to a physical keyboard and an actual root linux shell out of the box without any hacking. I loved that my n900 behaved more like a computer and less like "mobile" device.

Too bad Nokia decided to end support for the n900. Most of its developers and lots of its users abandoned ship, and now I only use it as a camera because the n900 is stuck in 2009, and the web in 2016 is so bloated and heavy that nothing- not even the web browser or the unupdated apps- are usable now.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by benmcnelly on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:18PM (#12859383)
You are not alone, I have two good friends that still have theirs too, and nothing will ever be good enough for them again. That phone spoiled them, and is the direction they wish phones went. Alas, they have gone the way of the masses instead, but you know if someone like a OnePlus came out with a modern powered phone, with a big battery (phone size doesn't matter to us), a physical keyboard, dual sim, expandable memory and an open source OS, there would be DOZENS of us that would snap it up. Dozens!
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by imjustsaying on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @06:28PM (#12859977)
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by bitJericho on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @07:04PM (#12860197)
The most objective comparison of two cellphones ever made.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by digi_owl on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @07:05PM (#12860208)
Huh, i completely missed that Nokia made a Symbian variant of their split keyboard design. I recall a relative of mine owned one of the featurephone models.

Things like this is what makes me feel that the mobile market came to a screeching halt somewhere around 2007, and has barely been picking up speed since.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by cure on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @08:16PM (#12860575)
Owwww, the E70! I loved that phone. Still have mine.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by Gruselbauer on Thursday November 03, 2016 @03:56AM (#12862256)
I loved Nokia's smartphones so much. E70, E61, N900... Those were the pinnacles of smartphoning for me. Their successors somehow manage to fall short in vital aspects every single time, it's beyond frustrating.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by digi_owl on Thursday November 03, 2016 @11:56AM (#12865069)
Best i can tell its because back then smartphones were for productivity first and foremost. These days they are for media consumption.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:22PM (#12859408)
Have you looked into sailfish? No physical keyboard, AFAICT, but it's based on the successor to Maemo.

Also, look into the neo900 project and Pyra. Neo900 is trying to upgrade the n900, and Pyra is the successor to Pandora, which is a pocket computer in a semi-similar vein to the old nokias. Neither is finished, but they're worth a look.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by ryukafalz on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:58PM (#12859743)
Sailfish is cool, I used to use it on my Nexus 4. Its app support has never been quite as good as Maemo's, IMO.

The neo900 makes me sad, because it's basically my ideal phone, but the price is just too much for me. I know it's not their fault, the low production quantities will do that, but still. It's an updated n900, with a fully FOSS stack and an isolated baseband to boot... awesome.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by joshumax on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @11:54PM (#12861484)
Did you check out the Openmoko Forerunner GTA04? Golden delicious just started early production!
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by Shugyousha on Thursday November 03, 2016 @06:05AM (#12862674)
I would have bought a Jolla ~4 years ago if their UI components (Silica) were open source. They said then that they plan on Open Sourcing them but they still haven't.

Plasma Mobile and Tizen are my only hopes for getting a non-Android Open Source OS on my phone.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:52PM (#12859700)
I've heard of sailfish before, but I had NO idea sailfish is somewhat maemo based. This really makes me want to reconsider the Jolla phone.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @06:45PM (#12860081)
Sailfish is based on Meego, which was a merge of Maemo and another project. It was the OS that backed the N9, the last phone Nokia made before they went to MS.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by ZenoArrow on Thursday November 03, 2016 @02:52AM (#12862048)
> "and another project"

The other project was called Moblin. It was an Intel project.

It's a shame the N950 never got a proper release. The N9 got praised highly on release, but the N950 would've been the true successor to the N900.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by skykooler on Thursday November 03, 2016 @09:00AM (#12863556)
Keep in mind, if you live in the US, that the Jolla is an EU phone, and doesn't support US 3G or 4G frequencies. I was stuck with a Jolla on 2G for a while. Recently I got a OnePlus X and installed Sailfish OS on that, and the experience has been much better.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by Nition on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @09:14PM (#12860839)
Jolla was formed by devs that left Nokia after they abandoned Meego. I had an N9 and currently have the Jolla phone with Sailfish. They're very similar.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:51PM (#12859685)
>nothing will ever be good enough for them again.

Reading this made me so sad. This is exactly how I feel. Nothing will ever be good enough again. :(

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by amiga-workbench on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @07:27PM (#12860327)
I would kill for a Nokia N950. A proper keyboard, and a true Linux operating system with the usual userspace software you would expect.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Thursday November 03, 2016 @12:29AM (#12861603)
My raspberry pi 3, encased in a rainbow colored 3d printed case and with a 3.5" touch screen, is what took the place of my n900. It's a fraction of the cost of an n900, but with a standard rpi linux distribution and modern specs. Sure I can't make calls with my pi, but the sacrifice is well worth it for the nerd appeal of having a fully functional computer in your pcoket.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by Yaggo on Thursday November 03, 2016 @07:24AM (#12863007)
Raspberry Pi has one big flaw as a mobile device: it cannot sleep. If you disable peripherals etc you can get it down to ~100 mA or so when idling, which is still order of magnitude more than a real sleep mode.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by Gruselbauer on Thursday November 03, 2016 @03:58AM (#12862260)
Got some kind of build recipe for that? A mobile ssh station that doesn't suck would be worth my enternal soul to me. Or two of those!
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Thursday November 03, 2016 @03:55PM (#12867381)
I like xubuntu because it's minimalistic and not as bloated. It doesn't take a lot of effort to set up your favorite packages like a lamp server and the like after a basic install. My cheap touch screen is a little laggy, but when plugged into an HDMI monitor, the OS is as fast as a desktop computer. Be sure to buy the latest rpi though, because the original rpi1 is kind of slow and disappointing compared to the latest one with much nicer specs. With an external high-capacity battery and a USB wireless keyboard, it can even function as a laptop replacement if you're okay with using linux as your main OS.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by teekert on Thursday November 03, 2016 @04:57AM (#12862440)
Do you have an image of this? It Sounds like something I'd like!
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by maxerickson on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @09:54PM (#12860993)
Would you pay $3000?
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by diggernet on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @10:12PM (#12861071)
Or maybe $2995?
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by JorgeGT on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @09:15PM (#12860842)
There are certain devices like this, right? A similar thing happens with the HP-15C calculator, it was so sought after in eBay, etc., that HP even made a special edition a few years ago.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by mintplant on Thursday November 03, 2016 @02:47AM (#12862038)
The Dragonbox Pyra is nearing completion and taking pre-orders right now.

https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by Gruselbauer on Thursday November 03, 2016 @03:52AM (#12862244)
Same here. Obviously you're 100% right in how little of a target demographic we are, but I'll never forget the sheer joy of finally saving up the money for the n900 and getting it.

As mentioned, it'd be a usable device on its own to this day. If newspaper sites hadn't become unusable without an adblocker, if I didn't need browser updates every nanosecond and if the latest memory-hogging web trend language wasn't, well, what it was. I'd still use it.

Now I own two mobile devices. A BlackBerry Passport. Great UI, physical keyboard, indestructible. Dead software ecosystem, horribly closed source, last of its kind and while there's a lot to love It's not hard to see why. Then there's a rooted HTC phone. Great choice of software (termux alone makes up for so much). Hate hate hate ssh'ing with a touchscreen. Typing generally. Terrible battery life. Seems like it'll die from one harsh drop.

If my social life would not force mobile messengers on me, I'd have gone back to 20€ dumbphones and text/voice only. Though I bet even those come with a horrible browser and the accompanying remotely exploitable holes now.

All in all? Wonderful project. I'm very much hoping for a third player in the mobile game.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by biafra on Thursday November 03, 2016 @01:44AM (#12861853)
Did you hear about the neo900? Would that be an option for you?
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by skykooler on Thursday November 03, 2016 @09:03AM (#12863576)
The Neo900 would have been excellent had it come out two years ago, as originally planned. However, the various delays keep pushing it back, although it still has the same hardware. It will end up quite underpowered like the N900 is now, combined with an older chipset that doesn't support things newer open phone OS's require (like Wayland).
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by grownseed on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @08:18PM (#12860580)
Boy do I miss the N900... Mine is sitting on my desk like a museum piece gathering dust, and it makes me sad that no modern phone has come remotely close to it.

I used it as my main phone when travelling for years and it worked everywhere I needed it to when other phones wouldn't. I'd use it for getting unwacoughted access to WiFi when I was in a tough spot. I'd manage my servers with it. I'd use it to emit music through the radio on car trips and such (why is this no longer a thing?). I could even push my own programs on it without having to make a sacrifice to the phone gods. I'd also kill for a keyboard like that again.

But no, instead you have to get a hobbyist device or get one of the many shiny slabs running (poorly) one of three (and I mean, really, two) ecosystems.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by pre on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @09:25PM (#12860884)
Oh, man, I forgot it had that FM-Transmitter. That was so cool.

So many of us miss that phone.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by jcoffland on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @10:53PM (#12861276)
Google made a huge mistake choosing to base Android on Java, IMHO. I know they did it because they felt it would be easier to get developers on board but it's the main reason Android is slow and memory hungry. OSes like Plasma prove that compiling binaries for ARM processors is not a big problem and that compiled code runs much faster. Java byte code may have the potential to run close to native speed but in practice it carries with it a lot of bloat.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by pjmlp on Thursday November 03, 2016 @02:58AM (#12862074)
You obviously aren't aware that since Android 5 there isn't any bytecode being interpreted.

Android is 100% native code since that version.

Even the changes in Android 7, although they use an intepreter written in Assembly, the code is JITed with profile information, both are cached and it gets ultimately fully compiled to native code when the device is charging.

Also in case you didn't notice, Apple is pushing for LLVM bitcode for their newer OS versions.

There is even a BOF on this weeek's LLVM meeting about how to make LLVM IR fully hardware neutral.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by OOPMan on Thursday November 03, 2016 @06:08AM (#12862685)
Unfortunately, despite all this Android is still a turd of an OS.

Just about every Android device I've used has been painful in some way or other and invariably I've ended up rooting it and installing a custom firmware, generally the most light-weight one I can find.

Unfortunately, despite these antics Android remains annoyingly prone to sluggishness, freezing, reboots and various other random problems.

Ultimately it seems that with Android you're either forced to use a stock ROM which imposes a heavy memory footprint due to all the "wonderful" tweaks Samsung/Sony/HTC/Xiaomi have made or drop down to a user-built AOSP-based variant that is inevitably plague by its own issues.

I'm horrified to think this kind of thing is the height of the mobile user experience.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by Grishnakh on Thursday November 03, 2016 @12:52PM (#12865671)
That's weird; Android works pretty well for me these days. I have lots of problems with sluggishness, freezing, rebooting, etc. on my old HTC phone which had Gingerbread (I think), an ancient version of Android.

But on my Galaxy S4 and my current Galaxy S5 (which is updated to 6.0.1 I think), things work quite well.

It's not perfect of course: I'm using the regular Samsung/Sprint ROM which is absolutely loaded with crapware. I disabled all the crapware, but it's still there wasting a lot of valuable space out of my 16GB. It could be a little faster at times, like with the camera. But freezing and reboots just aren't a problem the way there were on old Android versions that I've used.

I do plan on trying out CyanogenMod sometime when I have some free time. But for now, the carrier-pushed version seems to work decently well. I don't have any giant complaints.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by pjmlp on Thursday November 03, 2016 @07:09AM (#12862925)
Those problems don't lie necessarily with the language, rather on the quality of work of everyone involved.

I have seen pretty sluggish, full of memory leaks and dangling pointers, C code written at enterprise level, by developers that couldn't care 1s about code quality.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by danudey on Thursday November 03, 2016 @02:25AM (#12861974)
The code is written in Java, but a technical note: it's actually compiled to bytecode for the Dalvik runtime (and later, the Android runtime).

Your points are still relevant, don't get me wrong, but the system isn't running Java bytecode specifically.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by pjmlp on Thursday November 03, 2016 @03:19AM (#12862145)
And of course Android Rutime does AOT compilation to native code and with Android 7 a tiered compilation Assembly/JIT/AOT with PGO.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by biafra on Thursday November 03, 2016 @01:49AM (#12861869)
Apparently you have no idea how Android works. There is no Java byte code running on Android devices. It doesn't even reach the device.

Google just used the Java language and APIs. But never it's byte code or VM.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:15PM (#12859363)
I still want an N900 now. The web be damned: it could still browse HN.

Nowadays, the next best thing is the Pyra, but that still has't been released.

By the way, have you seen the neo900 project? It sounds like you would be interested, although it is also incomplete.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:45PM (#12859629)
I spent $300+ (way too much!) for my n900 and I still think it was worth it. It was my replacement for my tmobile g1 phone.

The n900 is everything that I thought the g1 was going to be, but wasn't. In a way, it was my fault for blindly creating my own hype over a first generation product I knew nothing about. The g1 turned out to be my bad and disappointing foray into smart phones.

Also, yes I have heard of the neo900 project, but am sad that the project is so far from its goals. There will never be enough n900 users to meet a crowdfund. :(

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @06:49PM (#12860098)
I wouldn't be so sure. There are a lot of N900 users and fans.

Another interesting project which might fill my desire for a true mobile computer (if only I could afford it) is the Pyra, the more powerful successor to the Pandora. But at $~500-$~600, it may not be worth it, and it still hasn't actually released yet (although the company did make the Pandora, so they have a history of Getting Stuff Done).

If you're going on the cheap, you can always hack together a Raspberry Pi and a tiny screen, keyboard, and battery into something semi-workable, and use a phone for the rest.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by ZenoArrow on Thursday November 03, 2016 @02:59AM (#12862076)
I think the Pyra even has an (optional?) modem module you could potentially make calls with (using a Bluetooth headset rather than sidetalking-style ;-)):

https://www.pyra-handheld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Modem

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday November 03, 2016 @07:59AM (#12863229)
Yeah, but it costs 100 euros extra.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by morganvachon on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @07:36PM (#12860377)
> If you're going on the cheap, you can always hack together a Raspberry Pi and a tiny screen, keyboard, and battery into something semi-workable, and use a phone for the rest.

You can get a GSM board from Adafruit fairly cheaply, which would give you 3G data and voice/SMS on a Pi. You'd have to do your own wiring, but if you're building something like this that wouldn't be a problem. Throw a Ting SIM in there (or your other favorite carrier) and you're good to go.

Basically a mobile phone version of Bunnie's Novena laptop, though not quite as open source (at least not until Broadcom finishes opening up the RPi's processor).

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by nextos on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @06:59PM (#12860171)
Pyras are really really close to being released. I think max 10-12 weeks.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @07:14PM (#12860253)
really? Nice. I really want one, but sadly cannot afford it right now. Not at that price. Let's hope they keep selling them.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by amyjess on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:41PM (#12859591)
I clung to my N900 for so long. I got it at launch in fall 2009, and I used it as my daily driver until early 2014, when I finally buckled and got a Nexus 5. By that point, my N900 was barely usable, but I was really dragging my feet on a replacement because I knew that any other OS would be a step backwards.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:49PM (#12859663)
That's exactly what I got mine, and exactly when I retired mine because I didn't want it to flat out stop working. The USB port died and the SD card never worked to begin with. Once the circuitry for the wifi becomes inoperational (like what happened with my tmobile g1), then I consider the phone officially dead...
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by amyjess on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:55PM (#12859724)
Yep, my USB port died too. I ended up getting an external charger and a handful of spare batteries. Did that for about a year or two before I got my Nexus 5. At least buying new batteries gave me back my battery life that had degraded to almost nothing over the years.

On top of that, over the years, the kickstand broke, the screen got scratched badly, my belt clip broke in multiple places, the SIM slot became really finicky, and even the plastic around the keyboard was starting to come out.

And a lot of the problem was performance: a 600 MHz OMAP3 was great in 2009, but by 2014 it was just too slow to handle modern websites, and the browser based on Firefox 3.5 (maybe 3.6?) couldn't even handle some newer websites. And to be honest, the RAM was low even for its time... only 256 MB, operated as a unionfs with the rootfs, plus some of the (very, very slow) eMMC was formatted as swap. Over time, most apps stopped working: I remember using Facebrick to access Facebook for a while, and it was nice, but eventually the author stopped updating it, and Facebook changed their API, so no more Facebrick. It got to the point where I'd only use the browser, terminal, camera, and dialer, because that's all that was useful.

About a year after getting my Nexus 5, I booted up my N900 to get some photos off it, and I found I had difficulty emailing them to myself because Gmail had changed their API and flagged my N900's connection attempts because they used the old API that was deprecated for security reasons. None of the emails went through, and when I got back to my desktop, Google took me to a page telling me it thought my account had been compromised.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by pre on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @09:30PM (#12860903)
Yep, also using an external charger to keep mine going.

My batteries are swelling. I suspect it's no longer safe really.

:-?

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by 4goodapp on Thursday November 03, 2016 @02:23AM (#12861966)
Well, It has the same battery has the Nokia Lumia 520. Just in case you're trying to find a new one, it'll be easier to find.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by pre on Thursday November 03, 2016 @05:15AM (#12862497)
Cool, good to know. Cheers.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Thursday November 03, 2016 @12:41AM (#12861643)
I've already disposed of two or three spare batteries. I have two chargers and 3 batteries that I rotate in a cycle. It's always cheap to order them off amazon or ebay.

Universal battery chargers are a life saver if you have multiple types of batteries to charge.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by dingo_bat on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @11:18PM (#12861369)
I think the n900 was a great device but you have a case of rose tinted nostalgia. Today's android phones can do everything you described and more and better. For example, my phone can go from deep sleep to perfectly focused photo snapped in half a second.

I'll give you the keyboard though. Nothing beats a full keyboard.

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by shakna on Thursday November 03, 2016 @01:28AM (#12861809)
What's the difference in the hardware between your phone and the n900 though?

How much extra power do we have to cram into the device just to achieve the same performance?

Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by dingo_bat on Thursday November 03, 2016 @04:28AM (#12862352)
It's not the same performance by any measure. But you're right that android seems to be needlessly inefficient.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by OOPMan on Thursday November 03, 2016 @06:09AM (#12862688)
That is something of an understatement by any measure.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by dingo_bat on Thursday November 03, 2016 @01:40PM (#12866132)
Which part?
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by OOPMan on Monday November 07, 2016 @09:47AM (#12891363)
Sentence 2.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by photonwins on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @06:47PM (#12860086)
The best mobile computer I have ever used, I kicked myself when I dropped it on the floor and the screen broke. I ordered a compatible screen from ebay and changed it myself. It was so much fun opening up a terminal and ssh'ing into my workstation. Then Nokia had to go out of the way to ruin it for me.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by girvo on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @07:55PM (#12860458)
I adored my Nokia N9 for similar reasons! The single best phone I've ever owned.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by kwhitefoot on Friday November 04, 2016 @02:47PM (#12874904)
Why adored? Why not adore? I still have my N9 and I use it every day.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by 4goodapp on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @10:49PM (#12861261)
Well, at least it work well with HN. http://i.imgur.com/wg9r4DM.png :)
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by lphnull on Thursday November 03, 2016 @12:36AM (#12861619)
you're giving me nostalgia. I always dreamed that my n900 was going to be my futuristic bitcoin phone. I suspect that people started abandoning the n900 right around the time that our dreams were crushed in the great bitcoin crash of not so long ago.
Re:Plasma Mobile – Turns your phone into a fully open hackin... by cheiVia0 on Thursday November 03, 2016 @12:49AM (#12861669)
You are not alone:

https://neo900.org/