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Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by btipling on Thursday March 25, 2010 @04:57PM (#1219477)
Am I the only one that found staring at orange hard on the eyes? I guess I should give the author credit for all the work that they put into this rant, seems like a blog post could have done just the same without all the fancy graphics and what not.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by arohner on Thursday March 25, 2010 @05:05PM (#1219501)
Actually, I had a harder time reading your comment, while my eyes re-adjusted to a more "normal" color scheme.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by joegaudet on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:41PM (#1219741)
I was just thinking the same thing.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by jlees on Thursday March 25, 2010 @07:10PM (#1219807)
Everyone wants to be Dustin Curtis. Still, the author calling HN posters Neanderthals was a nice touch.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by ilovecomputers on Friday March 26, 2010 @04:55AM (#1220575)
Well actually, it's common in the printing business to have each article to be of a unique style. Take National Geographic for instance.

One article has a different theme: http://www.valeriedaysings.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/na...

from another: http://www.simongarnier.com/images/wordpress/ft_hdr.5.jpg

Well actually, those are title pages, but I've read those articles and I can attest that the different designs set a suitable mood for the topic at hand.

I applaud web publishers for taking up this paradigm and applying what publishing graphic designers have been doing for some time. Of course with most methods of design, it depends if the occasion is suitable. Some online publications can do well with a consistent design: http://www.alistapart.com/

While others do well with differing designs, almost as if each posting of their articles is a treat for their readers: http://trentwalton.com/articles/

just like D.Curtis does, so good on him if he has inspired others to do the same.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by ugh on Friday March 26, 2010 @05:05AM (#1220584)
“Still, the author calling HN posters Neanderthals was a nice touch.”

In this case quite appropriate, though. Having to scroll down one third of the page before you get to anything resembling a meaningful discussion about the actual content of the article cannot possibly be a good thing. Neither can the sneer and arrogance displayed in this thread.

(I’m kind of aware of the irony of me participating in this thread. Resisting the temptation to be self-righteous on the web is hard.)

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by jrockway on Friday March 26, 2010 @07:15AM (#1220728)
The "sneer and arrogance" displayed in the thread is from people who actually already implemented most of these features, and from people using those extensions.

This article boils down to "It isn't pretty enough, and I didn't write it." In other words: no actual relevant content. Just a lot of pretty images as text, BIG FONTS, and whining.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by ugh on Friday March 26, 2010 @07:47AM (#1220764)
Sigh.

“Orange?! U R DUMB!!!!1!” – that’s what I don’t like. Not disagreement with the actual content of the article.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Semiapies on Friday March 26, 2010 @08:00PM (#1222313)
I take it you have eyesight that's near 20/20.

Mine's roughly that; the orange background is only a bit eye-straining for me.

For a lot of people with weaker sight, or outright visual disabilities that fall short of blindness, this would be entirely unreadable without Readability or similar tools.

Something that stops people from getting to content is noteworthy.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by ugh on Saturday March 27, 2010 @01:08PM (#1223235)
I don’t like the background. I thought it was nearly unreadable. Not worth talking about that, though.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Semiapies on Saturday March 27, 2010 @04:38PM (#1223621)
Then don't talk about it.

Other people thought it was worth talking about with regards to a blog post by a guy who makes a point of giving each post a unique, custom design.

The color choice also hasn't been the only thing criticized - the layout is cluttered and confuses some people. It's overall a much poorer design than many, if not all, of the other posts on that site.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Semiapies on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:36PM (#1221706)
That's the downside of a design-heavy blog post: people will talk about your design first.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by ugh on Friday March 26, 2010 @03:28PM (#1221843)
Really? That’s where you want to go? It’s the author’s fault that people here talk (mostly) rubbish for trying to make his post look great (even if he falls short)? I don’t quite follow.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Semiapies on Friday March 26, 2010 @06:30PM (#1222196)
"Really? That’s where you want to go?"

Lose the ego-investment/chip on your shoulder/BS. Nobody's impressed, and this isn't a schoolyard.

Where I "want to go" is exactly what I said. People will talk about the design first: how much they like it, how much they don't like it, whatever. We are not robots, and those of us with normal vision will pick up on color, shape, and arrangement before they read any of the text.

Simple rule: if you're going to be offended at people talking quite a bit about the striking color (or other design element) you used for your web page, whether appreciatively or not, don't use that striking color.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by notanidiot on Thursday March 25, 2010 @07:15PM (#1219813)
Joy Division was a great band, although I thought the lead singer died in the 80’s.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by RyanMcGreal on Thursday March 25, 2010 @09:32PM (#1220025)
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by dmix on Thursday March 25, 2010 @10:02PM (#1220058)
Choosing such a username is always risky.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by MaysonL on Thursday March 25, 2010 @05:42PM (#1219589)
If you happen to be on a mac, control-option-command-8 is your friend. Also, the readability bookmarklet does wonders for the appearance of sites like these. (And thanks to the people on HN who originally introduced me to these)
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by petercooper on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:56PM (#1219781)
control-option-command-8 is your friend

Ditto for if you go to Best Buy or any other non Apple store that sells Macs. They never know about this delightful key combo. </8 year old level of humor>

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by gommm on Friday March 26, 2010 @04:12AM (#1220529)
Glad I'm not the only one to sometimes be a bit childish and do this :-)
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by daten on Friday March 26, 2010 @10:04AM (#1221016)
Control-Option-Command-8 switches the display to greyscale, then inverts it (in other words, black text on white becomes white text on black).
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by thinkbohemian on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:49PM (#1219762)
wow, i've never seen that before, thanks!
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by ja27 on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:44PM (#1219746)
TO;DR
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by vijaydev on Friday March 26, 2010 @01:26AM (#1220334)
pardon me if this is lame. What does the O in TO mean?
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by AgentConundrum on Friday March 26, 2010 @01:32AM (#1220342)
Orange, as per the GP's complaint.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by alexfarran on Thursday March 25, 2010 @08:46PM (#1219951)
The readability bookmarklet is quite handy http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by BoppreH on Friday March 26, 2010 @12:36AM (#1220275)
Unfortunately it's not perfect. It didn't display the icons correctly and there was no clear division between and after the scenarios.

That's why I tend to use it more for reading medium-long stories, not fixing website's design.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by KirinDave on Thursday March 25, 2010 @07:04PM (#1219796)
I wish I could say yes. I found the color scheme interesting and a nice refreshing change from "Everyone's Posterous."

But I guess there are people who will complain about anything that is different. The slight irony of posting a complaint against orange while you were surely looking at a band of electric orange is not lost on me.

(At least, I assume you're with orange. Has pg lifted the karma restriction from the custom color preference?)

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by vcrash on Thursday March 25, 2010 @07:28PM (#1219836)
There is quite the difference between a little bar of orange and a whole screenful of it.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by KirinDave on Thursday March 25, 2010 @07:32PM (#1219838)
There's also quite a difference between the orange on this site (a harsh electric orange) and the relatively mild and somewhat popular shade of orange on the article, so I think it's a wash.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by vcrash on Thursday March 25, 2010 @08:12PM (#1219898)
I don't think that there's that much of a difference - The site starts out the same colour as the header, in fact, and fades gradually. The majority of the piece, however, is on quite bright orange.

http://omploader.org/vM3h3OA/Sample.PNG (HN topbar, start of site, middle of site, bottom of orange section of site.)

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by KirinDave on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:08PM (#1221649)
I suppose the main argument was: “So what? Orange is not hard to read on. It sounds like you're complaining because you like to complain about different things.”

Appropriate contrast was maintained, the entire design was not overly luminescent. Since it was the background color it did not create a wicked eye-draw the way the banner at the top of our comment pages here do.

If you don't like unusual designs then you shouldn't read peepcode; a magazine format is one of their boasted mission statements.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Semiapies on Friday March 26, 2010 @08:02PM (#1222314)
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by KirinDave on Saturday March 27, 2010 @03:07AM (#1222689)
I know people with severe visual disabilities. They have readers or tools to help them read things with far less objectionable layouts and designs than this one.

Saying every site has to avoid all interesting design so that people who are legally blind can—through supreme effort—read your page unassisted seems to be unreasonable at best and disingenuous at worst. Readability and screen readers and accessibility helpers and style removers exist for a reason and people who need them use them.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Semiapies on Saturday March 27, 2010 @04:44AM (#1222760)
Huh. Have you actually managed to respond to any differing viewpoint here without wildly misrepresenting that person's remarks in a way that starts at disingenuous?
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by KirinDave on Saturday March 27, 2010 @11:28AM (#1223075)
Have I wildly misrepresented the remark you linked?
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Semiapies on Saturday March 27, 2010 @04:42PM (#1223627)
Already answered.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by KirinDave on Tuesday March 30, 2010 @04:21PM (#1230055)
I was hoping you'd clarify, but I suppose that's asking for a lot in this day and age of HackerNews. Dialog is dead.

It's pretty lame to say "misrepresentation" is what you call the process of "extracting meaning from unclear and muddled prose linked indirectly."

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Semiapies on Tuesday March 30, 2010 @06:46PM (#1230406)
Dialog dies with good faith; when you try to recast what other people have said in order to argue with yourself, it's clear that you're not communicating in good faith.

When you lash out against anyone calling you on it, that's only confirmed.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by AgentConundrum on Friday March 26, 2010 @01:37AM (#1220346)
javascript:document.body.style.background = "#fff";void(0);
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by rao on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:51AM (#1220427)
thanks!
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by mhartl on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:01PM (#1221628)
This is part of Geoffrey Grosenbach's project to use a different design for each blog post; see http://blog.peepcode.com/tutorials/2010/about-this-blog. (Not that I'm endorsing the rather orange design, but that's the motivation.)
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by RevRal on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:44PM (#1219749)
When a page sears my optic nerves, I find it easiest to just disable its styles.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by jayair on Thursday March 25, 2010 @05:04PM (#1219496)
Same here, I struggled to read the whole thing. By comparison the screenshots were refreshing to look at.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by ComputerGuru on Friday March 26, 2010 @06:43AM (#1220692)
Readability bookmark ftw.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by dkersten on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:06PM (#1219651)
Agreed. I gave up even trying to read it. My eyes still hurt. :-(
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by hacknews on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:28PM (#1219704)
I am the only who thinks the post's title is boring.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Que on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:07PM (#1219654)
The site and the god awful grid background image (appears on doubleclick) was enough to inspire me to make a new bookmarklet.

My first impression, article aside, was that the site made baby Jesus cry.

Edit: In retrospect I think it was the combination of the orange and the grid background (I have a tendency to doubleclick on everything) that really put it over the edge for me, the main design isn't terrible.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by dutchflyboy on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:10PM (#1219662)
Hmm, I actually find the site quite nice. It's quite simple, readable and with some quite nice graphics.

But I agree, that background image is really horrible.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Qz on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:55PM (#1219776)
I think the background grid is just supposed to be an aid to align things properly when they're creating the content, and not really meant for readers to see.
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by armandososa on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:18PM (#1219683)
What I can't understand is: why would you double-click a webpage?
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by Que on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:36PM (#1219732)
I doubleclick text and blank areas constantly I realize this probably drives people insane, but while I'm reading a paragraph I will keep doubleclicking to select and deselect the text over and over. Somehow it helps my concentration.. I do this with code as well.

That's why I have bookmarklets to disable the dictionary lookups and other what I consider annoyances on sites that implement those features on doubleclick and yes I've been told that I'm crazy on many occasions.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by RevRal on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:56PM (#1219783)
I do this as well.

I do it so, when my attention gets diverted, I can quickly start from where I left off since it'll be highlighted. The obsessive clicking is because I'm obsessive.

Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by sammyo on Thursday March 25, 2010 @07:33PM (#1219841)
ditto, ditto
Re:Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files? by TorKlingberg on Thursday March 25, 2010 @06:55PM (#1219777)
To select a word. For example I double-clicked to select 'TextMate', so you search and find out what it is. Turns out it's a Mac text editor.