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Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by dukoid on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:06AM (#12071533)
I was wondering if this could be an actual problem. Assuming a maximum length of 700m, you get 2.73m per axle. So

- 2 axle cars must be longer than 5.76m

- 4 axle cars must be longer than 10.92m

- 6 axle cars must be longer than 16.38m

Found this 6 axle car with a length of 15.0m: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flachwagen#S-Wagen_f.C3.BCr_sc...

So yes, this seems to be a real problem, as it is possible to arrange a train with with 256 axles with this type of car that does not violate the maximum length restriction.

Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by masklinn on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:11AM (#12071576)
> I was wondering if this could be an actual problem.

In Switzerland? Probably not. In other places definitely, large-countries (USA, Canada, Australia) freight and coal/ore trains are hundreds of cars long (and each car has at least 2 bogies of 2 axles), the record is 682 cars and 8 locomotives.

Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by andyv133 on Monday July 11, 2016 @12:11PM (#12072053)
Although not all rail systems in all countries use axle counters for presence detection. In the US freight industry we use track circuits - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_circuit
Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by Symbiote on Monday July 11, 2016 @01:13PM (#12072555)
That's not a replacement, that's the older technology.

Axle counting guarantees that there isn't a detached, derailed wagon fouling the line, or a wagon with dirty wheels which aren't completing the track circuit.

Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by andyv133 on Monday July 11, 2016 @01:45PM (#12072818)
Nonetheless, it is what is used on freight lines in the U.S quite successfully, and provides other protections such as broken rail detection.

Detached cars are detected using the FRED/braking system, and secondarily by axle counts given by hot box detectors read over the radio.

Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by reustle on Monday July 11, 2016 @11:45AM (#12071822)
This has some really interesting info

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_trains

Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by imtringued on Monday July 11, 2016 @12:44PM (#12072282)
Is there any reason why those 8 locomotives have to form a single train? Can't they just have 8 seperate trains?
Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by Symbiote on Monday July 11, 2016 @01:13PM (#12072558)
A single train only needs one driver, not eight.

Eight trains would need a gap between them ­— typically several km per train — so the capacity of the line is increased by having longer trains.

Air resistance would be higher for eight trains.

Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by Viper007Bond on Monday July 11, 2016 @01:14PM (#12072563)
Those 8 locomotives can be controlled by a single team of people. Additionally it allows greater freight throughput because you need to maintain minimum distances between trains. It's actually extremely uncommon where I live to see a train with a single locomotive.
Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by masklinn on Monday July 11, 2016 @02:06PM (#12072985)
Well technically that specific train was a stunt (at the time BHP Billiton's regular run used 336 cars and 6~8 locomotives, now 264 cars and 4 locomotives), other commenters have answered as to why you'd want to run longer trains (and AFAIK modern trains rarely run a single locomotive these days, a pair is just more efficient and convenient even on passenger trains)

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_power for more information on running distributed power.

Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by pm24601 on Monday July 11, 2016 @04:14PM (#12074078)
Not to mention, if a loco had a failure the second loco would get the train off the main or to a convenient yard swapping out the failed locomotive.
Re:The axle count of trains in Switzerland must not be a mul... by dukoid on Monday July 11, 2016 @02:38PM (#12073224)
No? What's wrong with my calculation then?