Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by jedberg on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @03:33AM
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but no, it isn't. It's to provide building blocks for infrastructure. Down time is still on you. Only a lazy engineer blames their tools for their failures.
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Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by peteretep on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @07:27AM
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> Down time is still on you
If you can say "It's not our fault, it's Amazon's", there are plenty of boards and customers who are fine with that, in my experience.
Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by afarrell on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @10:34AM
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Yep. "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" applies here.
Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by oconnore on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @04:16AM
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Not sarcastic: aws is not a tool, it's a service. You're exchanging dollars for SLA. The SLA is built in: you're sometimes (rarely) down, and someone else gets called about it.
Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by riquito on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @04:25AM
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Your customers will blame you: you don't want it to happen. Even if amazon pay you some damage you may lose trust or your whole business in the meantime.
Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by ceejayoz on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @09:51AM
(#12001596)
With a major AWS outage, customers will think "the Internet is having trouble today." Half the sites they visit will be down or broken in some way.
Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by CaptSpify on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @11:29AM
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I think this perspective really depends on who you are supporting. This is my experience:
1) Actual customers: They want you to fix it. They don't care who's fault it is, they are dependent on you.
2) Internal customers: They want someone to blame. They don't really care that it's down, they just want to point the finger at someone when their report goes out late.
Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by dunkelheit on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @03:44AM
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"Down time is still on you" - well put. And it is actually great when you can only blame yourself because then you can fix the issue right away. If someone other is to blame, you need to a) convince that person that there is a problem and b) wait for the issue to rise to the top of their queue. Which can be painful.
Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by dexterdog on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @09:39AM
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But in the case of Amazon they will likely know about the problem before you would have anyway. Sure, their problems tend to have a much larger scale, but their ops teams are pretty good.
Re:Amazon Elastic File System – Production-Ready in Three Re...
by Johnny555 on Wednesday June 29, 2016 @11:27AM
(#12002232)
Just because it's your fault, that doesn't mean that you can quickly and easily fix the problem yourself. Amazon has a team of people to keep EFS up and running, and AWS owns the entire storage, server, and network stack. When your own NFS server starts timing out, you may have only a few people to diagnose the problem.