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Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by mc32 on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:25AM (#11970459)
Isn't that expected? People who voted for the establishment status quo want to know what might happen in the years to come now that the vote has gone against them.

Voting to stay meant no change, therefore they knew more or less the outcome, but now that the outcome is opposite their votes, they want to look into the repercussions --this informs that it's likely they stay vote didn't investigate the alternative before voting and likely voted out of custom to stay.

But way to go WaPo and imply naïveté on the Brexiters.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by notatoad on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:34AM (#11970570)
I think you're drawing conclusions based on your biases just as much as wapo is. You don't know who is googling the EU right now, or what their motivations are.

Just as much as some remain votes were blind votes for the status quo, some leave votes were blind votes for change.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by mc32 on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:37AM (#11970595)
Right... But then again, I'm not a journo at the WaPo. They are making these implications without knowing who... However I find it likely the Stay voters would be interested to know the implications of the vote now that the vote has gone against them.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by lawpoop on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:19PM (#11971012)
My personal inclination is those googling it didn't vote at all, and are now trying to figure out exactly what will happen in the next few years.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by ultramancool on Friday June 24, 2016 @01:12PM (#11971591)
They could also be children, non-voters, who are just trying to inform themselves about what the passionate people were fighting about and what's going to happen now.

Please don't use Google Trends for political gain. It's ridiculous on either side.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by rimantas on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:38AM (#11970610)
Now look at the demographics where voters voted for exit and see how does it compare in terms of age, education and income compared to those who foter for staying.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by mc32 on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:41AM (#11970636)
Wow, if that's not an elitist take I dunno what is. Maybe we should require IQ tests for voters, eh? Don't want the working class voting against the elites, now.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by projectramo on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:48AM (#11970722)
It may be elitist but it is not irrelevant in this case.

The question being asked is, literally, which side is less likely to even know what the EU is.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by wildmusings on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:02PM (#11970848)
When it comes to politics, intelligent and rich people have proven themselves just as capable of blunder as the simplest common man. Just switch the ignorance for a sincere belief in things that aren't true.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by wildmusings on Saturday June 25, 2016 @01:01PM (#11976984)
I forgot to add: and an arrogance to think they can run people's lives better than the people themselves.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by sergiotapia on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:34AM (#11970569)
Washingtonpost is extremely biased so I kind of scoffed at the headline. It's all in the "implication" with them.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:42AM (#11970650)
Do you disagree there's a big implication here?

Normally I'd agree with you.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by lawpoop on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:21PM (#11971027)
I do; my suspicion is that it's people who didn't vote, trying to figure out what will happen in the near future.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by pas on Thursday June 30, 2016 @04:28AM (#12007258)
Just FYI, participation was above 70%. ("The referendum turnout was 71.8%, with more than 30 million people voting. It was the highest turnout in a UK-wide vote since the 1992 general election" - BBC)

It's pretty safe to bet that a lot of those searches were from people who voted.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by sergiotapia on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:45AM (#11970678)
I actually agree that the title is purposefully bait-y and has an implication.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:47AM (#11970708)
The title is a pretty clear and accurate summary of what's happening.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by cookiecaper on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:17PM (#11970982)
The title implies that a significant number of British people voted to leave the EU without even knowing what it was, and that their opinion is therefore uninformed and should not be respected. You believe that's a "pretty clear and accurate summary"? Even if you do, you at least recognize the bias and that it's not really fitting for a supposedly-neutral news outlet?
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @01:16PM (#11971611)
I recognize bias, and I recognize that I myself am biased. But I also maintain that the title is accurate, and the implications of the bias are reasonable to draw. Whether or not this speaks to the quality of the publication is up to anyone, and I might agree with you if I had read more from the WP in the past.

It's a truth that a lot of people are googling things like this inside the UK and the adverb "frantically" I believe reasonably addresses how large the amount of searches is.

I also believe that the implication stands solid, that a lot of the Brexit voters had no idea what they voted on, what the implications of a Brexit are, and were largely motivated by things like fear of immigrants, which intellectuals seem to agree is a... not so smart fear to have.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by mtberatwork on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:59PM (#11971459)
Out of curiosity, what would be a better, non-biased headline then? I kind of agree with capote here, the title does summarize the contents of the article.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by cookiecaper on Friday June 24, 2016 @01:18PM (#11971631)
The entire article is hostile and biased; a biased headline that properly summarizes a biased article is not an accomplishment, it's just more propaganda.

First, we have to treat the source with healthy skepticism: Google, like most other large companies, probably wanted the UK to Remain, so they're going to release data that is intended to embarrass the Leave camp since they're bitter over their loss and want to prove that the vote was bad. An article stating that Google claims this is one of the most-asked questions is fine, but it's taken as de-facto true by the WaPo, which is improper. People tend to believe these things, but even results in peer-reviewed studies are totally and completely fabricated with surprising frequency. It certainly happens a lot with unauditable data like Google Trends.

Besides being incentivized to embarrass the British people, we also have to assume that Google is squashing various forms of the query into one block: "What is the EU?", "what is eu", "what is the e.u.?", and so on would be logical, but what about just "EU"? Is it counted? Surely many people would type that in to be directed to the official EU home page.

Second, even if it is an accurate representation of the search queries in the UK, there is not necessarily heavy correlation between people that voted and people that were asking that question. Many people who cannot or do not vote use Google, especially teenagers that are tech-literate but not yet of age to vote, and they may be seeking to be informed on the monumental decision that others in the UK just made.

Third, asking Google a question doesn't necessarily mean you don't know the answer. I often conduct queries for things I already know because I want to find a citation for a specific claim, I want to find a related image, or I want to see what other people think and/or say about the thing. This is pretty typical. For example, my last search was "howard dean yell" to find a link to the clip of Howard Dean's infamous "yeah". I've known about Howard Dean's yell since it happened in 2004. That I searched for this doesn't mean that I was ignorant previously; it just means I was trying to find something concrete.

Fourth, the way that Google presents suggested questions can cause people to click the option out of convenience, curiosity, or even just proximity, so we need not assume that every query is sincere or even intentional.

So, an unbiased first paragraph of the article would be something like this:

American web search company Google has stated that the query "What is the EU?" was among the most searched today, hours after the UK voted to leave the European Union.

Compare to the actual first paragraph, which literally says "it seems many Britons may not even know what they had actually voted for." That's open hostility and bias.

Aside from all this, there is bias merely in the selection of what to publish, even if the article and headline are written in a seemingly-neutral way. The fact that WaPo is choosing to publicize Google's unverifiable declaration in the first place lets you know where they stand.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by sbmassey on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:55PM (#11971402)
I wonder how they measure the franticness of the Googling: Are they sure they aren't just casually Googling about it?
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @01:10PM (#11971571)
Are you saying it's categorically wrong to use subjective adverbs in headlines?
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by rayiner on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:39AM (#11970612)
> But way to go WaPo and imply naïveté on the Brexiters.

The D.C. political class : politics :: MBAs : business. And WaPo is the Harvard Business Review. In that it's often useful, but suffers from the belief that the hoi polloi would be lost without the "professional political class" to tell them what they want, and derisively dismisses ideas that don't originate within certain orthodox circles.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by CM30 on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:01PM (#11970841)
So in other words, a lot like most of the media then. As well as quite a few university students and most politicians.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by rayiner on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:04PM (#11970867)
Most media and politicians have a distinct opinion or slant. I don't think WaPo does. Their MO is more: "Either X or Y might be right, but whatever is right is only right because we tell you it's right."
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by turar on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:39AM (#11970625)
This doesn't explain "What is the EU?" being the second ranked search query.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by howlingfantods on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:48AM (#11970724)
I would guess it's mostly students and such, a population with a disproportionate effect on online social trends and deep gaps of real life knowledge.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by tarpherder on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:57AM (#11970806)
Well it won't be old people and such, a population with very low digital knowledge/presence and deep gaps of real life knowledge.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by ojbyrne on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:27PM (#11971087)
Easy explanation: all the other search queries for that phrase were spread over 2-3 months leading up to the vote.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by mc32 on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:43AM (#11970663)
It may be people in America or China want to know a little more about the EU now that the fear campaign is in full.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by mediocrejoker on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:46AM (#11970695)
I think the article was specifically referring to queries from Britain, wasn't it?

I would assume they can break down this type of data by country very easily.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by mc32 on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:47AM (#11970710)
They could, but I didn't see that stipulated... I'm on mobile, so it could have been hidden, if so apologies.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by turar on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:44AM (#11970673)
These queries were from UK only.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by Aelinsaar on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:39AM (#11970626)
I just saw an interview with a young woman who was expressing that most of her family voted "yes" out of protest, and now they're already regretting it, seeing what the fallout is.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by cm3 on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:52AM (#11970757)
Protest/spite voting happens in Germany as well, and I'm beginning to consider if it's required to ask people (like an oath at court) when casting a vote. But knowing how people get pissed off about things like that for no reason and parties leveraging it, it seems unrealistic to do any good. In the future voting will probably involve bio sensors like cars with alcohol meters.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by keithpeter on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:57AM (#11970803)
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-su...

I can't link directly to districts on this page but have a look at /Westmidlands/Wallsall and /westmidlands/wolverhampton.

I don't know but I suspect a fair number in those towns will have joined in with friends/family as part of the general mood.

Petrol price rises coming through soon unless you guys all start buying sterling again. Some companies have hedged their supplies but others buy only a few days forward. Priced in $ of course.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:31AM (#11970527)
Wanting to know and in many cases regretting it. It seems obvious many had no idea what they were doing, and many were just "mucking about".
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by ZenoArrow on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:46AM (#11970697)
How do you know it was just Brexiters who were Googling "What is the EU?"? Seems a bit presumptive.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:49AM (#11970731)
I don't. But if Bremainers were googling it it's inconsequential. It's the Brexiters who google it that tell us something about the vote.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by throwanem on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:14PM (#11970957)
But you don't know either way, so you're just drawing conclusions from outright ignorance here. That doesn't seem like a useful way to spend time.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @04:46PM (#11973326)
I spend much of my time in unuseful ways, and so do you.

Outright ignorance is definitely pushing it. It's a guess, but very much an educated guess that it's mostly Brexiters who are googling it. Bremainers tend to be better informed, so they are less likely to be doing last minute (or in this case post-last minute) googling about the issue.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by ZenoArrow on Friday June 24, 2016 @04:57PM (#11973416)
> "Bremainers tend to be better informed"

What a load of bollocks. The majority of people on both sides have been getting the bulk of their information from mainstream media, which is heavily biased towards a limited set of narratives. There's a fair amount of compelling information that has been omitted from or suppressed in the public debates.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Saturday June 25, 2016 @01:23AM (#11975347)
It's definitely the case that remainers are better informed.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by ZenoArrow on Saturday June 25, 2016 @03:45AM (#11975592)
Based on what?
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Saturday June 25, 2016 @01:33PM (#11977137)
Based on nothing or anything. It's just reality.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by throwanem on Saturday June 25, 2016 @11:38AM (#11976682)
Repeated assertion.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by ZenoArrow on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:25PM (#11971068)
You could look at it either way. For example, you could say it was Remain voters who wanted to understand why Leave voters were pleased to have won. Once someone realises they were misled by the mainstream media, and see the vote was about more than just racism/immigration, perhaps that curiosity is understandable.

In any case, we can't say for sure which side of the argument was searching for 'What is the EU?', though odds are it was a mixture of people from remain, leave, undecided and ineligible.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by Slaul on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:36AM (#11970584)
How do you know that they regret it "in many cases"?
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by porker on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:45AM (#11970682)
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:37AM (#11970594)
Gut feeling after reading the article I suppose?

Would you really be surprised if many voters didn't know what they were voting for? Especially if the outcome is one agreed upon by most intellectuals to be the worse outcome.

Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by cm3 on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:53AM (#11970767)
So maybe it's time to regulate campaigning to be disallowed from spreading lies or misrepresenting reality?
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by Slaul on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:39AM (#11970614)
No, I wouldn't be surprised at all. I was just curious, hopefully I did not come across as confrontational.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by capote on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:44AM (#11970667)
You didn't. All of this is based on implication and what meaning you draw from the information, so it's not such a solid thing.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by mc32 on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:39AM (#11970621)
As well as who is regretting what (remain/leave) and in what numbers. It's all click bait speculation.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by advertising on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:44AM (#11970669)
I don't think people who wanted to stay are now wondering what the EU is...
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by ZenoArrow on Friday June 24, 2016 @11:48AM (#11970726)
Maybe they should.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by banach2 on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:29PM (#11971110)
With the amount of easily consumable and manipulative propaganda going around it's quite easy to make a misguided vote without realising the implications. It's not like voting to leave takes much effort.
Re:The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after vo... by madaxe_again on Friday June 24, 2016 @12:20PM (#11971021)
I don't think they're implying it - they are quite correctly stating it.

If you voted for brexit and you still think it was a good thing - then you have a serious issue with parsing the reality in front of you and understanding it. Honestly. The empirical fact is here, today, the reality is gruesome.

If you still think that this is all great, then you must just enjoy chaos and uncertainty, which makes you a queer duck indeed.

No, brexiteers were duped, even Farage said so himself this morning - and moving from an entrenched emotional position isn't easy, which is where the reality parsing defect comes from.