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Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by Eric_WVGG on Sunday June 05, 2016 @10:52AM (#11841240)
A two hour daily commute is like 12% of your waking hours crumpled and thrown away. That sounds like hell.

Two hours is a long time! Sit around for the two hours doing nothing, you'll see.

Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by ams6110 on Sunday June 05, 2016 @11:37AM (#11841489)
A two hour commute (assuming one hour each way) is very very common. I did it for years when I lived in the suburbs and worked downtown. About an hour door-to-door each way, with the train ride being about 45 minutes of that.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by Natsu on Sunday June 05, 2016 @03:04PM (#11842505)
I did that exact commute for 8 years. I've never been so happy as when I was finally able to ditch it. The new commute is 20 minutes (one way), with WFH days and hours flexible enough that I can usually avoid rush hour.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by tluyben2 on Monday June 06, 2016 @06:29AM (#11845700)
I did it for years too and I would never do it again, no matter what the pay is. I guess it is a matter of options and taste, but I find commute and working in an office every day quite close to living in hell.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by dredmorbius on Sunday June 05, 2016 @01:11PM (#11841915)
Average US commute is 25 minutes (one-way).

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/al...

Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by GBond on Monday June 06, 2016 @05:32PM (#11850583)
2 hours typical for workers in NYC that live outside from neighboring burbs.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by okal on Sunday June 05, 2016 @11:05AM (#11841329)
Two-hour weekly commute.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by vidarh on Sunday June 05, 2016 @11:32AM (#11841465)
I have done hour each way commutes for many years, and while I don't miss it, it's not nearly that much of a waste. It's not "sit around doing nothing" (though, I wish I had two hours a day to sit around doing nothing - it'd be fantastic). It's time people spend listening to music, reading, napping, catching up on e-mail, playing games.

As much as I like currently not having a commute, it was certainly not time that was "crumpled and thrown away".

Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by sgnelson on Sunday June 05, 2016 @04:08PM (#11842853)
You obviously didn't drive if you were reading, napping, catching up on email, playing games (at least I certainly hope not). At least within the US, a typical commute (with the exception of very large cities such as NYC, Washington DC, Boston, Chicago, which have large public transportation systems) involves spending time driving their own car, which essentially prohibits any activity other than listening to music, and maybe talking on the phone. So yes, it's wasted time for most of us.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by ultramancool on Sunday June 05, 2016 @04:46PM (#11843029)
You can also get away with podcasts and audiobooks, which have really prevented me from seeing it as a simple waste of time.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by replicatorblog on Sunday June 05, 2016 @05:47PM (#11843308)
+1 for Podcasts and Audiobooks. I get through ~2 books a month and a host of podcasts. It's not an ideal use of time, but if scheduled correctly it can at least be additive.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by NobleSir on Sunday June 05, 2016 @11:23AM (#11841432)
I'm not saying its the case in Switzerland, but I get a ton of work done on my occasional three hour train commute. Driving definitely sucks though.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by ryandrake on Sunday June 05, 2016 @12:43PM (#11841776)
I currently commute 2 hours each way. It's not as bad as it sounds. If you happen to be able to afford to live close to work, consider yourself lucky.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by wicker on Sunday June 05, 2016 @01:06PM (#11841888)
Do you do anything in particular to make use of the time during the commute besides just concentrating on driving, listening to music, or daydreaming? I struggle with long commutes since I inevitably feel like I'm wasting the time.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by rando444 on Sunday June 05, 2016 @02:08PM (#11842218)
As someone who did this for some time. Get out.

I, like you probably, think that it's not "too bad", but once you're away from this practice, you'll realize that you were wasting so much valuable time.

Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by lsaferite on Sunday June 05, 2016 @07:07PM (#11843631)
I work remote and my voluntary commute (could work from the house) is 7 minutes to an office in town where I work every day. My colleagues Live around the Bay area and pay exorbitant amounts and/or drive 1.5-2 hours each way into the office. My quality of life is much better on that front.
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by ryandrake on Sunday June 05, 2016 @01:45PM (#11842099)
Music, NPR
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by billmalarky on Sunday June 05, 2016 @02:27PM (#11842316)
The opportunity cost of a four hour commute is nuts though. That's half a fulltime work shift!
Re:Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters by dllthomas on Tuesday June 07, 2016 @01:03AM (#11852491)
My commute is a little less than that - but I don't sit around doing nothing! It's time to work without interruptions.