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Re:Ubuntu on Windows by tkinom on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @03:55PM (#11392418)
Can windows 10

    apt-get install/run most/all the x/gtk base apps

    apt-get build from source those apps.

    ?
If so, I will consider switch.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by NateDad on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @03:59PM (#11392455)
No. No GUI applications (currently, and no announced future support... and I wouldn't bank on them doing it).
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by mcpherrinm on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:28PM (#11392718)
Fortunately X11 is "network transparent" and there's X11 servers for windows. It shouldn't actually be that hard to make this work (though the perf will probably be pretty bad in a naive implementation).

At very worst you could SSH to localhost and X11-forward to the same host -- but you can optimize that.

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by anthk on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:31PM (#11392743)
Nope, XMing works perfectly if you export the display to localhost (the default) and it's really fast, it even has GL support with MESA , with hardware acceleration.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by ionelm on Thursday March 31, 2016 @02:23AM (#11395349)
It doesn't. It's outdated and not free. This should be way more known: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by kristianp on Thursday March 31, 2016 @01:37AM (#11395203)
I found apps using xming in a VM to be quite laggy, not fast to the point where I could use them regularly. e.g. SublimeText.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by ageofwant on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @09:24PM (#11394373)
Or you could just use ubuntu...

It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution.

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by coldtea on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @09:58PM (#11394519)
>It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution.

It amazes that people don't understand that one's usage patterns might be different, so "just use Ubuntu" wouldn't be applicable (e.g. UNIX savvy guy who appreciates the shells and userland, but nevertheless wants to do Windows .NET development, or work with native and proprietary Windows programs the rest of the time).

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by ageofwant on Thursday March 31, 2016 @01:09AM (#11395113)
The "UNIX savvy guy" will just use Windows when he needs to, either in a VM, a Azure windows instance or his company provided laptop and call it a day.

All the yakka spent on avoiding the obvious solutions to justify "usage patterns", should signal any half-aware dev that those precious patterns are broken.

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by rkangel on Thursday March 31, 2016 @04:41AM (#11395803)
Yes, I will "just use Windows" when all the dev tools for my embedded environment are only available for Windows.

And when I'm stuck on Windows for whatever reason, I'll be immensely grateful to be able to do that with a bash shell and all my normal configuration and tools.

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by coldtea on Thursday March 31, 2016 @06:35AM (#11396135)
>The "UNIX savvy guy" will just use Windows when he needs to, either in a VM, a Azure windows instance or his company provided laptop and call it a day.

Still missing the fact that he could be needing them 24/7 for his work...

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by eggy on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @10:27PM (#11394591)
I have been running dual-boot Windows/Linux forever (Minix before Linux took over ;) ). I have purchased programs - Mathematica, Ableton Live, Clip Studio Paint, etc... that I have on Windows along with VS and .NET/F# stuff. This will make my world so much easier, since I only use Linux for the occasional program I don't want to bother compiling on Windows due to dependencies and long make files. Cygwin and MSYS2 have their issues to make this more enticing to me.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by aristidb on Thursday March 31, 2016 @01:32AM (#11395188)
Mathematica at least has a Linux version. :-)
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by moron4hire on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @09:43PM (#11394456)
Are those the same people? I don't think those are the same people.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by brianwawok on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @09:56PM (#11394513)
Ubuntu being has hard nothing to do with why I don't use it as a desktop or laptop environment (but in fact I use for every server I touch if at all possible)
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by baq on Thursday March 31, 2016 @03:39AM (#11395584)
no i couldn't, corporate it won't let me. this will be so much better than anything else currently available.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by julian_1 on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @05:01PM (#11392964)
Wayland might be a cleaner api layer to integrate into the windows display subsystems.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by techdragon on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @10:02PM (#11394529)
Or we could use X11 right now with one of the several existing X11 display servers that work on Windows :-)
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by petecox on Thursday March 31, 2016 @01:57AM (#11395261)
headless, you're still stuck with Windows Explorer as a window manager.

I don't use a particularly fancy WM/DE under Linux but it's the little things such as middle click paste, and window operations such as maximize horizontal/vertical (by using the middle and right mouse buttons) that I miss.

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by webreac on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:11PM (#11392570)
If ubuntu can run, you just need Xming to have all GUI applications.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by anthk on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:27PM (#11392716)
If GUI applications run X, any X server on ayn architecture which supports the X11 protocol will work.

Check out XMing.

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by baq on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:44PM (#11392848)
i recently discovered mobaxterm's awesome automatic x server and x forwarding. suddenly i find myself gvim'ing on my (non-prod) servers. i imagine it'll be similarly easy but better.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by ryao on Saturday April 02, 2016 @02:46PM (#11412719)
If they implement dri, alsa and evdev (without subtle implementation bugs), then Windows would be a decent development platform for Linux games and such games could run on both Windows and Linux. If Apple joins the party, it would be write once, run anywhere. :)
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by ldehaan on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @08:11PM (#11394041)
not yet, and probably not likely, but if you're interested in running winders on a Linux i have x2go instance for testing and it works quite well. I use an internal gb network though, so your experience will vary.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by ramy_d on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:06PM (#11392517)
vim?
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by paradite on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:19PM (#11392631)
It's in the list given by author:

apt, ssh, rsync, find, grep, awk, sed, sort, xargs, md5sum, gpg, curl, wget, apache, mysql, python, perl, ruby, php, gcc, tar, vim, emacs, diff, patch...

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by stephengillie on Thursday March 31, 2016 @02:19AM (#11395331)
At least half of these already exist, either as .NET cmdlets, Command Prompt functions, or Windows EXEs.

RDP, Robocopy, Find.exe, Sort-Object, Select-Object, Select-String, Invoke-WebRequest, Invoke-RESTMethod, IIS, .NET, CMD, ASP.NET, and Compare-Object will fill most of those needs.

And Powershell accepts "cat" if "gc" for "Get-Content" is too long. Or "ls" if "dir" or "gci" for "Get-ChildItem" is too long. And each of these is a case-insensitive object you can pipe right into ConvertTo-Html or Send-MailMessage.

Or you can create a UDP socket with .NET right from Powershell, and send your objects that way.

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by zodiakzz on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @08:27PM (#11394131)
It's already working as shown in the video demo: https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2016/P488
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by stephengillie on Thursday March 31, 2016 @02:06AM (#11395301)
It works really well in Powershell. I use it on Win8.

https://juliankay.com/development/setting-up-vim-to-work-wit...

Re:Ubuntu on Windows by 15155 on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @04:12PM (#11392580)
Presumably, as it's not a GUI application. Not gvim though.
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by icc97 on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @06:18PM (#11393474)
You can already run vim from the msys git distribution
Re:Ubuntu on Windows by rhabarba on Wednesday March 30, 2016 @08:09PM (#11394031)
There is also a native Vim, compiled with Visual Studio: http://tuxproject.de/projects/vim