Italians find people who drink a cappuccino after about 11 in the morning a source of amusement. It's a dead giveaway that the person in question is a foreigner.

The good side: they're amused but not rude or snotty about it.

I once ordered a cappuccino after 11, I got something else instead (I believe an espresso/americano?) and I was really confused as I thought the barista had misheard me. Then someone explained it to me afterwards and I felt kind of silly

Why is that something to feel silly about? I would think that if it is your harmless custom it is rude for someone with a different custom to make something negative out of it.

Some of us gave up the fight and will now have a cappuccino whenever. (Paese che vai, usanze che trovi.)

That's ridiculous, coffee has a flavor and that flavor is the true taste of coffee. Well the true taste of the particular coffee you're drinking because different beans and brewing methods create different flavors. It's equally ridiculous to shame people about not enjoying black coffee but adding another liquid to your coffee definitely diminishes the amount of coffee you taste.

> The amount of sugar you were putting in your coffee is probably not close to comparable to that in these drinks.

Even if you put just 2 teaspoons, that is 10gr of sugar. If you drink 3 coffees a day, that's 30gr or your entire daily recommendation as per WHO.

Unsurprisingly, I too drink my coffee black. While I can stand coffee with milk in it, and sometimes order cappuccinos at fancy coffee shops, sugar just ruins it. If you can get off it, you'll be much better off in every way.

> Even if you put just 2 teaspoons, that is 10gr of sugar. Which is about 30 calories. Which means you'd have to drink 6 cups with that amount to equal the calories of 1 can of Coke.

Add a tablespoon of half-n-half, and that's +20 calories - 50 calories per cup, which means you're still 3+ cups before you equal a can of Coke.

It's all relative. If you have a couple of cups a day with reasonable quantities of things added, it's not particularly egregious on its own.

(Doesn't count milk, but in small amount the inc

> Yet for someone reason no one thumbs their nose at them.

You should come to Portland sometime. :)

For a visit.

No one thumbs their nose exactly because they are "milk" based :-)

I agree with parent because I had a similar process, and I see the same difference in nature. I'd say that coffee-based drinks are more of a piano concerto, while milk-based products more of a strings trio, although I'm sure this is a terrible analogy.

The true taste of coffee is black coffee, prepared in a few different ways.

Latte, etc are all their own drink. They contain coffee.