I'd rather be overweight than perpetually hungry.

EDIT: I wrote my comment in hurry, so I will now take some time to clarify my point.

Feeling hungry comes from the fact that eating foods rich in sugar and fat puts your insulin levels at a roller coaster, going up and down like crazy. With balanced diet, after initial few days of adjustment your insulin level stabilize making hunger go away.

Also, whole foods, vegetables, grains contain a lot of fiber, which stacks up in your bowels making you even likely to feel hungry.

No you can't. You can say that eating fewer calories doesn't mean feeling hungry for you. Apparently you're not in the fraction I was talking about. Good for you.

I also note that you're talking about changing your diet, while the post I was replying to specifically said you didn't have to do that.

I read that post as saying that losing weight does require a change in diet. Reducing calories is a significant change to make.

I think one of the easiest ways to reduce calories is to change the composition of the diet, there are a lot of calorie dense foods that provide little nutrition and not much satiety. Eliminating (or simply reducing) them can be an easier way to shift calorie consumption in the right direction.

I agree with you that changing your diet seems like generally a much better idea.

at the end of the day, losing weight is work. there's no way around it. work is generally slightly uncomfortable, and if you're not at least a little bit willing to endure that, you aren't going to see results. i treat gym time and kitchen time like office time. it's just work i have to do. it's not a big deal. after i get this work done, i can relax and chill out and do something mindless.

and really, in the end it's an individual decision. you have to decide, do i give a shit about this? you don't have to give a shit about it. if you don't, that's fine. if you do, then get to work.

maybe in 20 years things will be different, but that's how it is now.

After being on intermittent fasting 16/8 for half a year the notion of being "hungry" amuses me. Now being hungry means not eating for 24h or more. Sadly some think that if their stomach is a bit empthy, they have to eat. Or they need to eat because the device on the wall/hand/in the pocket displays a certain number which indicates food time, then wonder why they're fat.

But you're right, most of the 16 hour fast happens while you sleep.

Estimation is good enough as long as you monitor your progress and tweak it if it's not getting you results.