The language of productivity is now being used to advocate napping on the job

Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by phil248 on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @07:29PM (#10781299)

Maybe it's just me, but for me, having plenty of non-working time to do things like sleep makes me more productive. I mean, maybe I'm weird, but things like working reasonable hours and having ample time off tend to make me a happier, healthier person.

But I guess lying down at work in my clothes is... another way of doing it.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by zyxley on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @07:44PM (#10781361)

There's a substantial difference between sleeping at work because you work 17-hour days, and taking a quick nap in the middle of an otherwise normal work day as a simple way to 'reset' between morning and afternoon.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by pilsetnieks on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @08:02PM (#10781418)

That's not what they're talking about in the article, though:

> [About China:] Workers caught in the throes of a 12-hour (or more) work cycle are encouraged to take a daily midday rest, which typically lasts no more than 30 minutes

> ...

> Workers who fall asleep on the job or are tired to the point of incompetence are losing significant amounts of money for their employers and the broader economy

I.e. naps help you drive your workers even harder.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by sliverstorm on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @09:52PM (#10781716)

That's the negative view, but they'll be working 12 hours either way, so naps seem like a win, as they make it more tolerable to give those 12 hours.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by shoo on Wednesday December 23, 2015 @03:51AM (#10782522)

its a pretty unimaginative and depressing view to suppose they'll be working 12 hours no matter what they do.

arguably workers might get much more mileage out of e.g. organising and forming unions to lobby for better conditions.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by doyoulikeworms on Wednesday December 23, 2015 @05:56AM (#10782818)

Some professions work 12 hour shifts. My mother is a nurse, and she works 12 hour days 3 days per week (full time). It's actually a pretty decent job.

But 12 hours at any job 5+ days a week does sound rough.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by sliverstorm on Wednesday December 23, 2015 @02:54PM (#10785242)

Near term, at least. Unionizing might reach more dramatic results, but that's a many decades endeavor, and doesn't help people today. Short term relief has value.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by PhasmaFelis on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @10:41PM (#10781811)

I'm not sure why those are mutually exclusive. I typically work a standard 9-6 schedule, and I'm always a little dozy after lunch; a 20-minute nap in my chair saves a couple hours of blearily forgetting what I was doing.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by tedmiston on Tuesday December 22, 2015 @08:10PM (#10781441)

Anecdotally a 20-minute midday nap resets my state of my mind. Though it's not practical in the office, living close to work can make it possible.

I find a 10- to 14-hour day much more palatable with a break in the middle. I wonder if Jack Dorsey does something like that between Square/Twitter time.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by jahnu on Wednesday December 23, 2015 @05:50AM (#10782810)

Any time I sleep during the day I wake up feeling terrible and I can't entirely shake that feeling for the rest of the day.

I envy people who can nap during the day and wake up refreshed.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by lojack on Wednesday December 23, 2015 @06:35AM (#10782904)

Try limiting your nap to 20 mins max. Anything longer and it's likely you'll enter REM sleep, and waking from REM sleep may be what contributes to this feeling.

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Re:The language of productivity is now being used to advocat... by gaius on Wednesday December 23, 2015 @07:39AM (#10783026)

Drink a shot of espresso and immediately go to sleep. It takes 20mins for the caffeine to percolate imto your system.

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