Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by GrumpyBen on Monday December 07, 2015 @10:47AM
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They're not ecologists, they're anti-globalization anarchists that protested against a new airport by destroying shops in downtown Nantes. They recently threw at the police candles that people left at the memorial for the Paris attacks. I consider myself an ecologist but I have no sympathy for these people.
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by metanoetic on Monday December 07, 2015 @11:11AM
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And yet, they're still not ISIS terrorists. The state of emergency was used to stop public discourse and dissent - both anarchists and non-anarchists were banned from attending marches during the Paris climate summit.
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by GrumpyBen on Monday December 07, 2015 @11:39AM
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The police had to protect the COP21 and the visit from more than 150 head of states. They also have to protect administrations, newspaper offices, jewish organizations and others potential terrorist targets. There's just not enough police forces to handle all this, plus marches and anarchist protests
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by slang800 on Monday December 07, 2015 @01:23PM
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Not having proper resources isn't a reason to infringe upon the freedoms of the people. If the police can't handle their work, then they should just ignore less important crimes and focus their efforts on the stuff that matters. Otherwise the French government could use a lack of resources as an excuse to silence whoever they want. With a justification like that, they could make arrests for thought-crime.
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by TheOtherHobbes on Monday December 07, 2015 @01:55PM
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Who's more of a threat to the public - random candle-throwing anarchists, or the heads of state of the biggest and most militarised and industrialised nations in the world?
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by XorNot on Monday December 07, 2015 @11:49AM
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Terrorists are terrorists regardless of affiliation. ISIS doesn't have organized operations in the west it just takes credit for lone acts.
By and large its not clear ISIS actually wants people to commit terror attacks in the west since it gets potentially useful recruits killed not fighting for territory in the middle East (note they are big on how you should definitely move to the ISIS territories).
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by metanoetic on Monday December 07, 2015 @01:53PM
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anarchists =/= terrorists
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by stefantalpalaru on Monday December 07, 2015 @11:09AM
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Can you read French? https://wiki.laquadrature.net/%C3%89tat_urgence/Recensement#...
People who commit crimes should be fined or arrested. These are preventive house arrests for crimes that they might commit in the future. You really don't see the problem with this?
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by GrumpyBen on Monday December 07, 2015 @11:21AM
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They also banned alcohol sales at night in some places for the same simple reason: the police has better things to do right now than dealing with drunk people or anarchists
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by Kristine1975 on Monday December 07, 2015 @11:37AM
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So much for "liberté"... which precisely seems to be what gotchange was talking about.
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by sitkack on Monday December 07, 2015 @01:05PM
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You didn't respond to the question.
Re:France looking at banning Tor, blocking public Wi-Fi
by GrumpyBen on Monday December 07, 2015 @03:37PM
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They are known violent protestors. I don't care much about the freedom of "environmentalists" that protest against capitalism by burning down stores. Especially while the country is in state of emergency.
Like those pesky ecologists that endanger the state by stopping economic growth and slowing down job creation at the cost of increased pollution, right?