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Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by dombili on Sunday November 22, 2015 @06:01AM (#10609739)
This looks really good. I'm not reading anything epub length on my phone but if I were, I'd give this a shot. Big thumbs up for a great product page as well. So many people screw this up. Two problems I noticed with the website:

- No way to see the price of the app without clicking on the App Store button. Maybe this was intentional?

- "Personalize your reading experience" part has three different screenshots showing three different styles. White on black and black on white styles show the same part of the book while white on blue (is that the name of that color?) shows a different part. No one will probably notice that, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to point out.

Any plans to make a Mac version?

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @08:10AM (#10609944)
Hello dombili!

Thanks for the feedback. :)

- App price not on site: Not quite intentional, no. I plan on changing that.

- Screenshot inconsistency: Hmm. Oh - actually, that is the same part of the book, roughly, I believe the paragraph margins changed, however. Something to fix.

- Mac version: Yes, actually. Right now I'm stabilizing Hyphen, but once I've done that and implemented Syncing, there will likely be a Mac version.

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by dombili on Sunday November 22, 2015 @10:23AM (#10610296)
My pleasure! Great to hear that Mac version is a possibility. Is following you on twitter the best way to get notified about that?

Good luck with the app, I hope it does well.

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @10:28AM (#10610313)
Yes, @HyphenReader (http://twitter.com/hyphenreader) is the best way to stay updated.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mintplant on Sunday November 22, 2015 @07:03AM (#10609828)
> while white on blue (is that the name of that color?)

I would call that "slate".

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by sirn on Sunday November 22, 2015 @06:24AM (#10609773)
I tried the full version and like how the app looks and works so far. The app seems to support ePub3 also (Marvin only supported ePub2 and Gerty is too social to my taste.)

I have few feedbacks:

- I wish the page doesn't fade when switching chapters. It interrupted the reading flow more than quite a bit.

- Would be amazing if the app could support CJK's vertical layout and page orientation. (I have never seen ePub reader app that did this right.)

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @09:03AM (#10610072)
Hello sim,

- I'm in the process of making more page turn modes available: https://github.com/hyphen-reader/hyphen/issues/4

- I'll look into CJK support. If you could offer examples of where you see it handled well, etc., that'd be great.

Thanks for the feedback.

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by sirn on Sunday November 22, 2015 @10:20AM (#10610287)
About CJK, at first I think there need to be a proper support for vertical writing layout and support for turning pages from right-to-left[1].

Hyphen currently seems to be handling vertical writing quite fine (but it is using default sans-serif font, which is less than ideal.) However page turning currently seems to be strictly left-to-right.

One of few apps I've seen to be doing well is Kindle (but unfortunately not ePub) and Bookwalker (has their own file format, although also has partial support for reading ePub file). My current solution for reading Japanese ePub books is to throw them into Bookwalker… which is kinda like second-class citizen in the app.

There are few public domain Japanese novels available in ePub3 format if you wish to have some sample (http://aozora.wook.jp/ click on "ePUBダウンロード".)

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @10:39AM (#10610352)
This is perfect, thanks! I've added it to the issue tracker: https://github.com/hyphen-reader/hyphen/issues/9
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by _ph_ on Sunday November 22, 2015 @05:40AM (#10609703)
Is it me or is it odd, that a reader called "Hyphen" doesn't seem to offer hyphenation? Especially as the screenshot shown on the page shows rather large spacing used for block setting the text.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by sirn on Sunday November 22, 2015 @06:18AM (#10609760)
There seems to be Hyphenation support but not on by default. (I downloaded and tried.)
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @09:50AM (#10610192)
There is absolutely hyphenation support - you can toggle it on or off in settings, but it is off by default.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by lobster_johnson on Sunday November 22, 2015 @02:22PM (#10611085)
It's odd that your first and most prominent screenshot has such bad typography:

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Bad typography is my main quibble with the Kindle app. It's been awful for years.

Have you looked into a better flow algorithm, such as the Knuth/Plass [1] algorithm from TeX?

[1] http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/spe.4380111102/ab...

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @03:31PM (#10611378)
That screenshot has justified text, you can use left, right, and center alignments as well.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by lobster_johnson on Sunday November 22, 2015 @03:46PM (#10611431)
That's not really a solution. That will create an awkwardly ragged right margin. Justified text is more readable and makes text look less messy.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @05:32PM (#10611781)
I like the Knuth/Plass technique as well, it creates much more uniform and visually appeasing line margins. The reason something like it would be so difficult to implement is that it requires heavy geometric processing every time the content reflows, which would impact Hyphen's performance a lot. Another issue I see is that it would pollute an ePub's DOM more than I'd care for.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by st3fan on Sunday November 22, 2015 @10:44AM (#10610370)
I really don't like how this app uses its own typography for the UI. Including wobbling bouncy menus. It just doesn't do it for me. I prefer consistency with other apps that I use.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @10:55AM (#10610400)
Hi st3fan,

Sorry to hear that. What consistencies are you referring to?

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by deft on Sunday November 22, 2015 @08:07AM (#10609942)
Wow. I've been wondering why an ereader like this didn't already exist. Gets rid of all the flashiness and chrome and colour. I hate ereader apps because they have so much going on, finally one figures it out.

Well done.

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @08:30AM (#10609993)
Thank you, I'm glad you think so. :)
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by JohnnyDouglas on Sunday November 22, 2015 @10:31AM (#10610328)
Very nice. A few dollars well spent. Great experience on my 6S+.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @10:53AM (#10610396)
Thanks Johnny!
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by kgarten on Sunday November 22, 2015 @05:09AM (#10609657)
Looks cool (just downloaded the free version and am playing with it). A tip for the free version specify what the limitations are more clearly in the description.
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @08:26AM (#10609980)
Will do!
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by eps on Sunday November 22, 2015 @09:30AM (#10610130)
Matt, a bug report - http://imgur.com/QMDeGvr

Note where the charge indicator is at.

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @09:41AM (#10610162)
Yikes. Is that an iPad Pro? If you could share more details that would be great. There's also the issue tracker you may be interested in: https://github.com/hyphen-reader/hyphen/issues
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by eps on Sunday November 22, 2015 @01:00PM (#10610807)
iPad mini, iOS 8.3
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 29, 2015 @02:48PM (#10645793)
Hello! Quick question: what triggered this bug for you?
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by wodenokoto on Sunday November 22, 2015 @07:21PM (#10612154)
The only thing I miss in books is the ability to sync page turns in e-pub acquired outside of the app-store.

How does this one do in that regard?

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 29, 2015 @03:41PM (#10645987)
Syncing is not supported yet, but will be soon. Follow Hyphen on twitter for updates: http://twitter.com/hyphenreader
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by walterbell on Sunday November 22, 2015 @03:07PM (#10611271)
How does this compare to Marvin, which was a decent successor to Stanza?
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @03:36PM (#10611403)
I think Marvin is great. However, imo, Hyphen differs quite a bit, and offers a more - deeper customization options, Goodreads integration, ADE pages, metadata lookup, emphasis on speed and ease, and so on.

Take the free version for a spin and let me know what you think.

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by LoSboccacc on Sunday November 22, 2015 @05:50AM (#10609720)
How does one define 'robustness' in this case?
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @08:16AM (#10609959)
I'm aiming for "strong and effective in all or most situations and conditions" :)
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by JSnake on Sunday November 22, 2015 @08:12AM (#10609950)
Is there a way to import my iBooks library into Hyphen?
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @08:26AM (#10609978)
There is, sort of, but iBooks makes this difficult to all but the most stout-hearted.

If you visit `~/Library/Containers/com.apple.BKAgentService/Data/Documents/iBooks/Books/` on your Mac, you'll find extracted versions of your `.epubs`, if you've downloaded them into your iBooks Library. The problem is, that in order to be valid ePubs they'd need to be archived again (as a .zip renamed to .epub, which is all ePubs are).

Also, iBooks uses DRM on paid(?) books downloaded from the store, making this more complicated even then.

So, yeah. I've plans for a desktop client that might make importing from iBooks possible/easier, but I'm a little afraid to go barking up that tree.

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Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @03:47AM (#10609496)
Hey pseingatl,

Android has MoonReader, which is nuts as it is! :P

But who knows - it's not in the plans, but Hyphen may expand to Android at some point.

I take it you're an Android user? :)

Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by spinchange on Sunday November 22, 2015 @09:10AM (#10610087)
As another Android user, this looks beautiful. Love that you focused on highlights/notes portability -and Goodreads integration to boot- but kept the UI so clean and minimal. Makes me miss iOS again. I would pay 2x as much for this on Android. Well done!
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by mattcurtis on Sunday November 22, 2015 @09:49AM (#10610188)
Thanks spinchange, that means a lot!
Re:Show HN: Hyphen – A beautiful, powerful, and robust eBook... by dang on Sunday November 22, 2015 @04:56AM (#10609623)
Please don't be rude when people share their work on HN.