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Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by jacquesm on Sunday November 15, 2015 @05:14PM (#10571470)
Note how it started off with a fairly humble application, a calculator and it grew into the industry giant we're familiar with today.

http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/busicom_141-pf_and_in...

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by SixSigma on Sunday November 15, 2015 @05:21PM (#10571493)
and people still reach for their phones to use the calculator even when they were already operating a mind bogglingly quick calculating machine. Or even get up to go find a desk calculator!
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by eru on Sunday November 15, 2015 @09:02PM (#10572215)
> Or even get up to go find a desk calculator!

They are used to its UI.

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by gaius on Monday November 16, 2015 @12:15AM (#10572748)
Yep. For any calculation of up to a dozen or so numbers it's far easier, quicker and more pleasant to use my HP than the computer, and even more so when in a meeting or on the phone. UI matters, physical interfaces matter.

http://aviation.stackexchange.com/q/22729/8205

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by ggreer on Monday November 16, 2015 @01:27AM (#10572952)
I used to use a TI-83+, but now I've gotten into the habit of opening a Python or Node.js REPL for math. That way, I can copy-paste values to and from emails or chat. It also helps that I already know the syntax and math libs.

I tried bc[1] as well, but it has some really annoying defaults. For example: While it's capable of arbitrary precision, it calculates out to zero decimal places unless you tell it otherwise.

1. https://www.gnu.org/software/bc/

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by gaius on Monday November 16, 2015 @03:06AM (#10573193)
I've tried that but for me a REPL for calculating occupies an annoying middle ground: not as efficient as a calculator for quick calculations and not as powerful as say MathCAD for exploratory work. IPython's a step in the right direction.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by eru on Monday November 16, 2015 @06:51AM (#10573908)
I always start it as "bc -l". On some computers I have alias bc to that option.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by justinhj on Monday November 16, 2015 @10:04AM (#10574780)
Emacs calc is convenient and very full featured to say the least
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by Zardoz84 on Monday November 16, 2015 @03:24AM (#10573240)
I keep using sometimes my old Casio FX-85MS . I only need to change the power cell one time in all this years since I bought like 12 years ago
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by eru on Monday November 16, 2015 @12:27AM (#10572782)
Knobs are awesome. I lament their passing in eg car radio and car aircon UI, and in microwaves.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by jacquesm on Monday November 16, 2015 @07:35AM (#10574035)
Pilots lament their passing in the cockpit. Plenty of readings and buttons that were available instantly are now only available after the perusal of menus used to multiplex a single display or button across many readings or actuators.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by ddingus on Sunday November 15, 2015 @09:18PM (#10572261)
Yep. Took me forever to be rid of the dedicated calculator for exactly that reason.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by pvg on Sunday November 15, 2015 @05:39PM (#10571551)
A striking thing is that the 4004, 8080, Z80, 6502 and Apple ][ all came out in a shorter timespan than that of the iPhone release till now.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by petra on Sunday November 15, 2015 @06:16PM (#10571687)
Actually microprocessors and microcontroller we're pretty obvious ideas at the time, engineers knew they we're coming , and they didn't even deserved a patent.

It's probably just at the time tech and design tools matured enough to such complexity, and the potential market was ready.

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by ghshephard on Sunday November 15, 2015 @05:40PM (#10571556)
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by agumonkey on Sunday November 15, 2015 @10:38PM (#10572483)
Someone should make an attempt at it with contemporary tools.

ps: ah, well, there are http://www.4004.com/ http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2011/11/15/intel-celeb...

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by orionblastar on Sunday November 15, 2015 @04:28PM (#10571296)
The start of a new era. I was just an infant when it came out. By the time I got into computers the 6502 and 8080 were out, by the time I was a teenager the 8086/8088 came out but all my family could afford was a Commodore 64.

I learned the 8088/8086 instruction set in college when I learned assembly language. I was too young for the 4004 chip. But it changed everything.

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by p1mrx on Sunday November 15, 2015 @05:01PM (#10571408)
No multiply instruction. Less RAM than an Apollo Guidance Computer. Lame.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by kabdib on Sunday November 15, 2015 @07:12PM (#10571855)
... fits on a fingernail (minus supporting circuitry), uses a fraction of the power. And orders of magnitude less costly.

And with transistors that big, it's probably rad-hard, too. Bonus!

(The first micro I saw with a multiply instruction was the 68000, which shipped 8 years after the 4004).

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by jacquesm on Sunday November 15, 2015 @07:23PM (#10571887)
The 6809 already had 8x8 mul.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by mtgx on Sunday November 15, 2015 @08:01PM (#10572031)
Are you comparing ARM with Intel now?
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by nitrogen on Monday November 16, 2015 @12:34AM (#10572795)
Unless I'm missing something clever here, I think it's worth noting that the 68k line was from Motorola.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by jacquesm on Sunday November 15, 2015 @05:12PM (#10571461)
RM will never live that one down apparently.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by whatusername on Sunday November 15, 2015 @05:18PM (#10571490)
You'll note the new "iPod's" have both wireless and more space than a nomad.

He was just ahead of his time.

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by foobarian on Sunday November 15, 2015 @09:10PM (#10572236)
I know it's an old chip from the 70s, but is that really a wood panel on top of the case?
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by Turing_Machine on Monday November 16, 2015 @10:33AM (#10574963)
It does look sort of like wood in that picture, but I think it's just matte-finish gold (or gold-plated) metal.
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by userbinator on Sunday November 15, 2015 @07:00PM (#10571823)
There's a full simulator and set of schematics(!) for the 4004 and its associated support chips at http://www.4004.com/
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by nickpsecurity on Sunday November 15, 2015 @09:01PM (#10572212)
Movie subtitle: "And so began a legacy of horrors that would never be topped in semiconductors..."

(Especially if you're in INFOSEC.)

Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by TazeTSchnitzel on Sunday November 15, 2015 @07:27PM (#10571903)
It's been 44 years... oh, is that the joke? 4004 -> 44?
Re:Intel 4004 is announced, November 15, 1971 by kadder on Sunday November 15, 2015 @04:39PM (#10571327)
About time