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Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by wfn on Sunday November 08, 2015 @04:54PM (#10530145)
> Do you think Africans would learn how to read and write if the Europeans didn't alter things?

That seems like a point the arguments for which would not stand well under scrutiny. Can you decompress your thoughts in this regard, because it seems like the obvious answer is "yes" (for starters)...

Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by a3voices on Sunday November 08, 2015 @05:00PM (#10530170)
And who would teach them? If a society lives in extreme poverty for all of history, with zero economic and technological growth, what would make them become more developed and educated without external influences?

“That one can survey the length and breadth of sub-Sahara Africa and find not even one work of visual or written art worthy of the name” - David Hume, 18th century historian

Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by ceejayoz on Sunday November 08, 2015 @05:30PM (#10530280)
> “That one can survey the length and breadth of sub-Sahara Africa and find not even one work of visual or written art worthy of the name” - David Hume, 18th century historian

Somehow, I suspect you'd find a lot of inaccuracies in the writings of 1700s historians.

This particular one is demonstrably false. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_art https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_literature#Precolonial...

> African masks were an influence on European Modernist art, which was inspired by their lack of concern for naturalistic depiction. Since the late 19th century there has been an increasing amount of African art in Western collections, the finest pieces of which are now prominently displayed.

Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by dang on Sunday November 08, 2015 @06:04PM (#10530403)
That 'quote' sounds bogus to my ear—so much that I'd be shocked if it were real.

Like any 18th century thinker, Hume had views that we would now regard as racist, but let's not pin things on the fellow that he didn't say.

Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by oblio on Sunday November 08, 2015 @05:08PM (#10530195)
Really? Using 18th century arguments about art? Would Hume have approved dadaism or postmodernism?
Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by serge2k on Sunday November 08, 2015 @07:12PM (#10530676)
I think the bigger problem is using 18th century opinions of Africa.
Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by a3voices on Sunday November 08, 2015 @11:27PM (#10531392)
So your position is that 18th century intellectuals didn't have an accurate perspective of 18th century Africa?
Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by dang on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:49AM (#10531564)
Please stop.
Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by TazeTSchnitzel on Sunday November 08, 2015 @05:05PM (#10530187)
> And who would teach them?

The Arab world?

Re:Africans are mainly rich or poor, but not middle class by puredemo on Sunday November 08, 2015 @11:42PM (#10531433)
Through colonization?