> a series like TNG will never be made again

I have higher hopes than ever actually. With Netflix creating their own TV shows, crowdfunding booming, as well as cheap alternative movie and CGI studios popping up worldwide, we might some day see something even better than TNG.

Edit: I mean, look at Stargate Universe, that how had incredible potential, and fit pretty much with the above "new economy / new audience" description.

I wouldn't be surprised that once the equity crowdfunding JOBS act passes properly, we'll see independent Netflix style TV series be funded, at higher per-episode funding than current TV.

We already saw that. http://www.startrek.com/page/star-trek-deep-space-nine

The way the characters and the plot developed together was great. Some of the episodes were uncharacteristically dark for the Star Trek universe (introduction of Dukat's daughter, Garak and Odo, etc.)

In TNG, the only credible existential threat was the Borg, and you really only felt that for a couple of back-to-back episodes. The Borg were awesome, but DS9 had greater sustained dramatic tension.

And the camp episodes! When DS9 did silly, they did it up right--with frickin' evil mirror universe characters and tribbles!

It's very good.

It takes a little while to get going, but the story is probably one of the finest arcs on TV.

Also don't forget star trek: voyager, my personal favorite.

https://empeopled.com/p/31640

Was a fairly descent wrap up if you're looking for some closure.

So I choose to believe/hope that a TV show isn't doomed to have the same outlook as the movie. I expect I may well be wrong, but...

Out of the pre-Abrams Star Trek films, four were generally well received (2, 4, 6, 8). The first and third films have a few people who like them, but are broadly disliked. The fifth, seventh, ninth, and tenth are almost universally disliked.

Even among the four generally well received films, only #2 (The Wrath of Khan) and #4 (The Voyage Home) are generally considered as good as the best television episodes from the first two series. Maybe #6 fits in there -- that one's actually my favorite, though I might be biased because it's the only TOS one I've seen in theaters.

  1) The Motion Picture: The one with V'Ger
  2) The Wrath of Khan: The one with Khan
  3) The Search For Spock: The one that fixed the problem caused by #2
  4) The Voyage Home: The one with the whales
  5) The Final Frontier: The one of which will not be spoken
  6) The Undiscovered Country: The one with the Khitomer Accords
  7) Generations: The one with both Kirk and Picard
  8) First Contact: The one with the Borg
  9) Insurrection: The one where Picard openly rebels against the exact thing he did in that one episode
 10) Nemesis: The Wrath of Khan with TNG characters, by someone who didn't understand why The Wrath of Khan was good

  11) Star Trek: Kirk gets promoted from Cadet to Captain in one day
  12) Star Trek <missing colon> Into Darkness: Spock is angry

First Contact did have its fair share of stupid (Borg queen, UGH). I just thought the plot made way more sense than any of the other TNG movies.

The movies were different than the TV show but there was still a shadow of the values and intellectualism from the show in the movies. For the modern remakes that's simply completely absent. And imagining that a show made by people who don't understand Star Trek will somehow begin to embody its values and qualities is, frankly, magical thinking.

It'll be fast-paced, it'll be gritty, it'll be dark, it'll be chock full of action and "intrigue" but it'll be brain-dead.

With the exception of Riker steering the Enterprise with that hidden Gravis Blackhawk joystick, it was very much like a feature length episode of the TV series.

I'd love a new series, but CBS showing it mainly on their streaming service and not even on network TV doesn't bode very well.

Fringe too is a possible reason for hope, but the science still seems out on how well Kurtzman works alone without frequent collaborator and fellow Fringe showrunner Orci.

(That said, I'm running on huge cynicism for this Star Trek project and my expectations right now are indeed rather low.)

After watching Prometheus, DL is right there with Uwe Boll on my list of people to avoid.

It will most likely be targeted at the youth and have a more diverse market to have more minority characters and more female ones. Remember it is not just the USA but the world they are selling the series to.

Each new Star Trek is marketed towards the young, TOS in 1966 was for my father, TNG was for me, Voyager and Enterprise was for Generation-Y, this new one is for the younger generation world wide.

It will sort of be like that Battlestar Galactica reboot Syfy did. Original fans won't like it but new fans will.

So I'm cautiously optimistic.

On a somewhat related note, CBS apparently tries to get a good start for their streaming site, this means that they will try to limit risk. So they will probably go for a darker tone and something like Game of Thrones in space.