Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by tylerlh on Sunday November 01, 2015 @03:16PM
(#10488001)
Does YC not provide any kind of guidance or coaching around customer support and PR to founders during the program? Seems like that should be a really important topic, given how situations like this impact not only the reputation of the startup, but also YC itself.
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Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by evolve2k on Sunday November 01, 2015 @05:57PM
(#10488834)
I would think it is just a good use of YC resources towards protecting capital investment to remind founders not to invite public ridicule when none needs to have occurred.
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by austenallred on Sunday November 01, 2015 @03:47PM
(#10488183)
YC isn't going to run your company for you. This isn't a YC problem.
If I'm YC and I have invested in a company, I'm going to step in and give a bit of coaching in a situation like this. Especially when the solution is completely obvious and the core action required (deleting the account, sending a quick apology) would be minimal.
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by austenallred on Sunday November 01, 2015 @07:17PM
(#10489165)
We're assuming they won't. It's a Sunday afternoon.
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by orless on Sunday November 01, 2015 @05:18PM
(#10488630)
A YC startup annoyed, failed to follow an account deletion request of, lied to, wrongfully accused of spamming, and doxxed a female user.
Well, if it's not a YC problem, it should very well become one.
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by tylerlh on Sunday November 01, 2015 @03:56PM
(#10488242)
The entire premise of participating in YC is to learn from other founders about how to build a successful startup. You're saying that YC doesn't have any reason to try and help founders do better at running their companies?
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by austenallred on Sunday November 01, 2015 @03:59PM
(#10488264)
It's up to the founders to reach out and try to figure out how to solve the problem. If they don't do that YC isn't going to perform an audit or hold a bunch of seminars or something.
TBH most of this is basic competence. YC can't ensure that all of the companies are competent in all aspects.
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by mintplant on Sunday November 01, 2015 @06:21PM
(#10488942)
They don't need to perform an audit to find this issue when it's plastered across the front page of their news aggregator.
They can't ensure, but they have an interest in assisting.
Will it will become a YC problem with all the bad PR.
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by makomk on Sunday November 01, 2015 @05:24PM
(#10488661)
Remember, pg has defended a YC company's sleazy tactics for bundling unwanted software in installers (including disguising the choice to install them as an ordinary EULA acceptance scheme, which he whitewashed as confirming that they wanted to install the software) and even that didn't do them any real damage.
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by livecodingwtf on Sunday November 01, 2015 @06:25PM
(#10488962)
I expect pg to defend profitable sociopathic behavior; but this destroys value. If he's not providing any coaching, it's probably because he already wrote the entire team down to zero and thus doesn't want to invest 14 seconds in a text message telling them to 'fix this ASAP'
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by Mithaldu on Sunday November 01, 2015 @05:54PM
(#10488812)
Which company, which software?
Re:My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga
by minimaxir on Sunday November 01, 2015 @05:58PM
(#10488835)
InstallMonetizer.
He also defended AirBnBs founders when they were publicly blaming-the-victim: customer whose house had been trashed by meth heads after renting it out on AirBnB.
Eventually the company seemed to hire a crisis consultant and started acting better.
But in the early days the founders were being extremely douchy and PG wrote an article that I was astounded to receive, defending the douchiness.
That was the point that I started to think YC isn't better than the average level of Silicon Valley.
BTW, many YC companies engage in fake traction tactics sometimes ones that cross the line into dishonesty-- for example AirBnBs "we'll spam people listing their places on craigslist while pretending to be someone else" marketing scheme.
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