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Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by tdicola on Monday July 20, 2015 @07:24PM (#9919746)
Can they bring Google Reader back now? I'm still bitter about it being killed to focus on Google+. Now that Google+ is dead in the water it makes the decision to kill Reader even worse.
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by extc on Monday July 20, 2015 @08:09PM (#9919920)
What's obnoxious is that everyone watching from the outside knew all these forced G+ moves were annoying and not welcome. One of the worst outcomes, imo, is the addition of G+ comments on YouTube videos - you end up with comments like "Check this out" in the video's actual comments section. Those comments are completely useless and destroy any sort of conversation, if it's even possible to have one in YT comments.
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by justuk on Monday July 20, 2015 @09:24PM (#9920123)
That's one of the reasons why I stopped using G+. I couldn't figure out how to make a public link on G+ to a YouTube video - without the comment appearing on YouTube. It got to a point where I would look on Vimeo etc to see if they had the video to link to.
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by amlgsmsn on Monday July 20, 2015 @08:24PM (#9919965)
>What's obnoxious is that everyone watching from the outside knew all these forced G+ moves were annoying and not welcome

What makes you think it was any different from the inside?

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by extc on Monday July 20, 2015 @10:20PM (#9920236)
Optimism, I suppose.
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by hobarrera on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @01:37AM (#9920705)
Alientube (firefox plugin) might be of interest to you. It shows reddit comments for youtuve videos, which tend to be of slightly better quality (not always though).
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by jonursenbach on Monday July 20, 2015 @07:28PM (#9919758)
Why? Reader was in maintenance mode for years, and companies that appeared when it disappeared have gone above and beyond what they offered. See: Feedly.com
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by tdicola on Monday July 20, 2015 @07:32PM (#9919774)
Feedly has improved a lot but it still doesn't display feeds as densely as Reader did and I feel a lot slower getting through a lot of feeds. Searching for articles was fantastic on Google Reader, but with Feedly it never works. Maybe I need to pay to enable search? Ultimately search 'just worked' on Google Reader and never works for me on Feedly.

If Reader was in maintenance mode then that's even worse to have killed it. It didn't need new features or major work and had a devoted and loving following. It just needed someone to make sure the lights stayed on.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by pablo-massa on Monday July 20, 2015 @11:29PM (#9920426)
My problem with Feedly is UI/UX. Web is.. fine, but the app have really weird interactions and is clunky.

I use Digg Reader. Web is awesome, love the simplicity, the app need some love but is way more better than Feddly. The thing I don't like about Digg Reader is the Digg part, I only want my lovely curated RSS feeds.

Also try NewsBlur, Feedreader, The Old Reader and Newsvibe but Digg Reader was the best for my needs.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by dpark on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @12:41AM (#9920593)
Feedly's Android app is a mess. I can fiddle with the settings to get it into a usable state, but the default behavior just makes no sense (and it's not good after the tweaking).

The default, so far as I can tell, is to dump every feed together to provide an "all-up" view. That could be okay, but then they layer a terrible card UI on top of it that's completely unintuitive. The top cards are big and generally pixelated (because it zooms in for some inexplicable reason), and it switches to a slightly different view after the first card, again, for no clear reason. I can swipe through the cards and reach the end, where it shows a giant checkmark and the words "Done" and "N reviewed". Reaching that page doesn't actually mean I'm done, though. Nothing is actually marked read until I go back to the top and tap on each them (or use the "mark all read" option). I'm either completely missing the interaction paradigm they intend or they haven't put much thought into what the interaction paradigm actually is. Maybe the devs all use iPhones and the Android client is an afterthought?

Meanwhile their website is generally okay, but I am completely at a loss for how to mark an item as unread once I've opened it. I should probably look for a different feed aggregator.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by _up on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @07:03AM (#9921422)
Have you enabled "Auto Mark as Read" in Settings? You can change the "ALL" View in the Sidemenu.

I am actualy working on a Feedly alternative. That's sorts articles by popularity. And can import Popularty counts from Sites that offer it. I hope the 70k Hacker News Readers on Feedly would like that. My Idea is to make search free and instead offer "Sort by Time" and "Compact View" as a Pro feature. Would anyone here be interested?

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by dpark on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @11:01AM (#9922690)
No, I apparently don't have that enabled. I could do that, but I'm pretty much ready to move to something else. The Feedly web app is pretty nice, though it has quirks and obvious bugs. But I shouldn't have to change half the settings on the Android app just to make it usable. I can't understand how they built this and never said, "Oh, this is really awkward." It's awkward enough that I pretty much just never use it. I only used the Android app again recently because I got a new phone and decided to give it another try.

Of course, maybe everyone else loves the interaction model and I'm the oddball. That's entirely possible, but regardless I want to find something else at this point. (Trying Digg reader as of last night.)

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by berberous on Monday July 20, 2015 @07:58PM (#9919877)
Do you use Feedly? Are you in "Title Only" mode? It's pretty dense -- I might be misremembering, but I'm not sure how Google could have been denser.

I was very bitter about Google Reader ending at first, but honestly, Feedly is fantastic and I'm now glad it closed. That said, I don't use the search feature, so perhaps that's not as good as Google's was.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by tw04 on Monday July 20, 2015 @08:29PM (#9919983)
Feedly may have improved it's layout since I last tried it (admittedly it's been over a year). But, of all the companies to come up with what I found to be the best replacement: reader.aol.com

I know... I know. But it's served my basic needs for quite a while now.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by sosborn on Monday July 20, 2015 @07:42PM (#9919812)
> it didn't need new features or major work

That was my favorite part about it. It just worked.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by arturhoo on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @08:56AM (#9921868)
Give AOL Reader a try. Feels very familiar to G Reader and the search functionality is competent enough.
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by GFK_of_xmaspast on Monday July 20, 2015 @08:38PM (#9920010)
I use newsblur and it can get really slow, especially in safari.
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by conesus on Monday July 20, 2015 @10:47PM (#9920315)
Hey, I run NewsBlur and I'd love to know why it's slowing down in safari for you. I use Safari myself as my primary browser and NewsBlur's always instantaneous. Are you running any extensions, specifically adblock? Email me: [email protected].
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by GFK_of_xmaspast on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @06:46PM (#9926415)
Replied!

(and in retrospect that comment was a lot more negative than I really feel about newsblur, I'm absolutely not looking to switch to something else)

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by ars on Monday July 20, 2015 @09:17PM (#9920104)
> Now that Google+ is dead in the water

Why do you say that?

In my experience every single teen I know is on Google+ and not facebook, while the older parents are on facebook.

Some of the teens also have facebook, but none don't have Google+.

This is because of two reasons: 1: Gmail means they all have Google+ accounts almost automatically, and 2: The privacy controls are much better in Google+, and they like that.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by hobarrera on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @01:38AM (#9920706)
> In my experience every single teen I know is on Google+ and not facebook, while the older parents are on facebook.

The only few people I know on Google+ are hardcore google fans who work in tech. Every teen (~15-18) I know is on facebook. And their younger siblings.

Plugin, Facebook Messenger seems to be quite dominant across those age groups too.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by Sgt_Apone on Monday July 20, 2015 @08:34PM (#9919996)
Digg Reader is an excellent replacement. It's very similar in execution, but you do need to sign up using a Google, Facebook, or Twitter account.
Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by scrollaway on Monday July 20, 2015 @07:57PM (#9919875)
I recommend Bazqux.com. It is similar to Google Reader in many ways, the UI is very familiar as well, and it lets you log in with a Google account if you like.

It is paid-for, although very cheap (and first month free). I ended up buying a life-subscription. I really miss Google Reader as well.

Re:Google+ Photos Is Shutting Down by pablo-massa on Monday July 20, 2015 @11:16PM (#9920391)
I think that they are going to focus on the product Google Newsstand* following the idea of hosted content (Apple News, Facebook instant articles).

*I think they are going to change the name and redesign the product to push forward the adoption.