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Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by A_COMPUTER on Friday June 26, 2015 @11:08PM (#9788944)
Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by impendia on Friday June 26, 2015 @11:18PM (#9788967)
I lived in Japan for two years, and studied the language, and it was amazing how that sentence always brought any discussion to a conclusion.

Grammatically, its negation would be "Shikata ga aru", but I never heard this said once.

Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by kazinator on Saturday June 27, 2015 @12:38AM (#9789131)
Maybe that negation would be too obviously related to the idiom. There are other ways to say there is a way; e.g. instead of shikata, there is houhou: 方法 (方法がある).

The counter-idiom, if you will, to "nothing can be done" might be "where there is a will, there is a way":

意志のあるところには方法がある。

If someone says しょうがない or しかたがない, and you don't agree, that might be the thing.

Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by sdrothrock on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:04PM (#9795894)
> The counter-idiom, if you will, to "nothing can be done" might be "where there is a will, there is a way":

I've always thought of the counter-idiom as being やればできる (yareba dekiru) -- "you can do it if you try."

Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by sliverstorm on Saturday June 27, 2015 @12:29AM (#9789109)
Sounds like it's a thought-terminating cliche- of which we have many in English.
Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by cmdrfred on Saturday June 27, 2015 @08:20AM (#9789916)
well, that's just the way it goes.
Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by reagency on Saturday June 27, 2015 @02:21PM (#9791043)
"It's God's will."
Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by gcv on Saturday June 27, 2015 @10:52AM (#9790330)
English has an equivalent: "it is what it is". It also stops solution-seeking dead in its tracks. A hateful little phrase.
Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by protomyth on Saturday June 27, 2015 @12:43PM (#9790684)
That's educational. Had a boss who normally on an even keel then someone said "it is what it is" to him and he got very, very angry. It was like someone kicked him. He said that was just unacceptable and we would find a solution / work around. I guess I now know the other half of the story.
Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by mjklin on Friday June 26, 2015 @11:48PM (#9789027)
Ah, this must be the Japanese equivalent of the Chinese "mei banfa" (没办法), probably the national slogan. Oh, they are building a dam and you need to move your house twenty metres up the hill? "Mei banfa".
Re:The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and u... by navbaker on Saturday June 27, 2015 @01:35AM (#9789234)
Wow, I knew this phrase from the Metasploit encoder, but never knew that it had such deep cultural meaning!