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Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by edandersen on Saturday May 16, 2015 @07:41AM (#9555759)
Macs really are some of the best Windows laptops you can buy - and now with full UEFI support Windows boots as fast as OS X.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by FreakyT on Saturday May 16, 2015 @09:45AM (#9556068)
Completely disagree -- the Apple trackpad drivers on windows are awful, and on a laptop, most of your time will probably be spent using a trackpad. Trackpad++, which the author of the article mentions, can help, but it's a horrible program for the following reasons:

1. The developer requires that you put windows into "test mode" (creating a non-removable desktop watermark) to install it at all, apparently to get around code signing restrictions

2. The developer requires that you install the completely useless "Power Plan Assistant" program in addition to Trackpad++

3. The software itself is terribly buggy, causing random 100% CPU usage spikes

Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by seanmcdirmid on Saturday May 16, 2015 @09:54AM (#9556091)
Apple's windows trackpad drivers are indeed not that great, but I haven't seen a windows laptop yet that can provide a better trackpad experience in spite of the bad drivers.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by okaram on Saturday May 16, 2015 @03:08PM (#9557239)
For some ungodly reason, I haven't seen any windows laptop with a nice trackpad that doesn't break in 6 months :(. At least my Acer netbooks have reliable trackpads (no gestures or anything, but ...)
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by spdionis on Sunday May 17, 2015 @05:21AM (#9559341)
I nave a Dell laptop and it has a great trackpad. Gestures work consistently, I use them all the time. The only real annoyance is that the material of the trackpad is not the most comfortable for finger swiping but it's alright.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by izacus on Saturday May 16, 2015 @10:52AM (#9556276)
Oh pretty much all of them have better trackpad experience than Apple drivers on Windows provide. Under OS X the trackpad is stellar, but on Windows the drivers are just awful.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by Artemis2 on Saturday May 16, 2015 @02:01PM (#9557009)
The multiple finger related functionality doesn't work that well under Windows, but simply moving the cursor feels a lot better than most Windows trackpads I've used.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by FreakyT on Saturday May 16, 2015 @05:24PM (#9557674)
You're completely correct, and it's unfortunate that you're being downvoted. I'm guessing this is due to idiots who have never used Windows on a Mac laptop and think they know more than they do.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by seanmcdirmid on Saturday May 16, 2015 @09:07PM (#9558260)
As a universal, parent's claim is patently false. I have an Lenovo X1 Carbon that is a testament to how crappy a trackpad can get. I have had a few PC laptops in the last 5 years (HP, Lenovo) but have never found one with an adequate trackpad. So, if could you please tell me which laptop I should try? This is quite easy to test.

I've heard good things about the new XPS trackpad, but haven't been able to try one in the wild yet.

Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by FreakyT on Sunday May 17, 2015 @07:42AM (#9559654)
Your issue is that you're misunderstanding the parent comment's claim. Izacus didn't claim that Windows laptop trackpads weren't bad -- the only claim made was that Apple trackpad drivers were worse. I've used a few friends' windows laptops, and while their trackpads certainly weren't good or perhaps even adequate (to borrow your term), they were without a doubt better than the Apple-laptop-running-windows combination, which I would classify as far below "adequate".
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by seanmcdirmid on Monday May 18, 2015 @10:24AM (#9564588)
I have an X1 to test side by side with an rMBP running windows, and the X1 is categorically worse. Heck, I've tried many PC laptops (we have access to many at work) and haven't found anything that was as usable as an rMBP.

So, just name one laptop whose trackpad is better than an rMBP, I'll go try it side by side.

Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by TazeTSchnitzel on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:21AM (#9556411)
Apple's keyboard layout for a Boot Camp lacks some of the accents with alt+ - the basic stuff works, but anything non-ASCII or a dead key is broken. :(
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by pmelendez on Saturday May 16, 2015 @08:44AM (#9555878)
Maybe... Still my Yoga 2 Pro feels and looks better than any Mac laptop I have own or seen. Touch screen is definetely a must-have to me. It is specially useful if you are developing for touch devices.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by peterhadlaw on Saturday May 16, 2015 @10:14AM (#9556139)
Are the colors still messed up on the Y2P?
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by pmelendez on Saturday May 16, 2015 @07:29PM (#9558040)
I haven't had any problems with colors so far (I compared them with my wife MBP and another HP Desktop we have at home). I did have weird color issues with my desktop XPS 2720 but were driver related.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by akhilcacharya on Saturday May 16, 2015 @12:04PM (#9556573)
I was able to handle one yesterday, and yes, it seems so.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by RexRollman on Saturday May 16, 2015 @09:15AM (#9555974)
Touch screen on a laptop. Yuck.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by pajaroide on Saturday May 16, 2015 @10:06AM (#9556120)
What's the problem with additional functionality on a laptop screen?
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by coldtea on Saturday May 16, 2015 @10:18AM (#9556154)
Nothing. I retroffited a soda fountain on mine.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by nivla on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:02AM (#9556318)
Well if it as light as the increased weight from the addition of a touchscreen, I wouldn't mind having two!

However on a serious note, its not as bad as you think. Just have to get used to it and once you do that, there won't be a going back. Think of it as something that is supposed to complement your existing workflow and not as something that would replace it. You know like have a voice assistant on your phone, you don't have to yell everything at it, just some quick look ups.

Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by eropple on Saturday May 16, 2015 @04:48PM (#9557555)
I disagree, strongly. It is precisely as bad as he thinks, and what makes it worse is that it damages the viability of a pen-based workflow (which I am in favor of, because I do a lot of visual stuff and I use OneNote quite a bit).

I want to be able to disable it entirely and not smudge the crap out of a screen I'm trying to work on, but it's effectively impossible and when you do disable it it all falls back to keyboard controls and leaves you with a garbage pen exeprience.

Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by WorldWideWayne on Saturday May 16, 2015 @09:52AM (#9556087)
Yeah, who wants a touch screen on a laptop that converts into a tablet? That's just crazy. Man, fuck those people for adding functionality that I don't even have to use in laptop mode, but which is essential in tablet mode.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by eropple on Saturday May 16, 2015 @04:46PM (#9557547)
I don't want a touch-screen on a tablet, either, because I don't want fingerprints on it when I'm reading on it. Which is why my Surface Pro 3 is essentially only a laptop, because using Windows 8.1 (and 10) in pen-only mode is unpleasant and slow.

I'd say the same about a phone, but I don't spend my day staring at my phone.

Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by WorldWideWayne on Sunday May 17, 2015 @01:04PM (#9560728)
Can't say I've had the same experience. On all of my touch devices, I can only see the fingerprints if the screen is off and if it bothers me at that point, I just wipe it off.

Given the prevalence of touch devices these days, I'm surprised that I don't hear this complaint very often.

Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by eropple on Sunday May 17, 2015 @01:23PM (#9560814)
I don't mind a touch screen on an iPad. But my Surface attracts fingerprints like nothing else (I have generally oily fingertips--it's not a function of washing, it manifests very shortly after I wash my hands), and it's really hard to keep it clean. If I use it for a full day, I probably wipe it down six or seven times. It's super distracting when I'm writing code or something.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by danieltillett on Saturday May 16, 2015 @08:59AM (#9555926)
I 100% agree. My Mac Pro is an amazing machine to run Windows. While I still prefer the workflow on 10.10, I am far from unhappy when I have to switch to using Windows.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by bartekko on Saturday May 16, 2015 @08:45AM (#9555883)
For me, the only thing holding them back is not being able to switch between discrete and integrated graphics on Windows.
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by pmelendez on Saturday May 16, 2015 @08:51AM (#9555910)
You can switch between them, usually using the control panel setting of the discrete graphics card (Nvidia in my case)
Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by UnoriginalGuy on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:34AM (#9556451)
Manual switching? Ouch.

So that means by default high battery drain, heat issues, and having to manually switch on the discrete graphics card by hand every time you visit a 3D-utilising website.

People have been complaining about no auto-switch in Windows on Macbooks for years, yet they haven't fixed it. Tons of other laptops already support it (inc. Thinkpads).

Apple keep Windows "bad" on Macbooks on purpose. It is the only explanation for all the driver issues they have (but no other laptop manufacturer has).

Re:Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10 by Scarbutt on Saturday May 16, 2015 @10:40AM (#9556230)
does Windows 10 still support old legacy BIOS?